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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Daily Record: Transgender Scots paedo carried out Valentine's Day sex attack on schoolgirl

15 replies

scratchedbymycat · 06/02/2023 09:53

This article highlights the case of a 20 year old transman who sexually assaulted a 14 year old girl. The abuser is now in the female wing of the young offenders institute. So ... trans men are not men?

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/transgender-scots-beast-attacked-schoolgirl-29136038

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smileladiesplease · 06/02/2023 09:55

It's all utterly ridiculous isn't it. Utterly ridiculous

TheAustralian · 06/02/2023 09:57

He’s 20 and in a young offenders jail? Wtf!
why isn’t he in an adult jail?

Boiledbeetle · 06/02/2023 10:01

But but but the woman is a man according to the Scottish Prison Service's awful rules.

Funny how they aren't stupid when it's that way round. They know this woman isn't safe in the men's prison!

There's also a line in there that whilst in the young offenders the transman is back identifying as female.

I'm sorry, but if prisoners can just change their mind depending on where they want to spend their sentence then that indicates to me this isn't something that they have to be, it's a choice!

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 06/02/2023 10:02

TheAustralian · 06/02/2023 09:57

He’s 20 and in a young offenders jail? Wtf!
why isn’t he in an adult jail?

She. Polmont house offenders up to the age of 21.

nauticant · 06/02/2023 10:09

Yes, from the article:

Coral ... is understood to be identifying as female in prison.

The sex attacker is housed in the female wing of HMP Polmont in Falkirk, which houses remand and convicted youngsters of both sexes aged between 16 and 21. Scott, who turns 21 in June, could be moved to an adult prison if handed a jail term when she is sentenced on March 2.

slowquickstep · 06/02/2023 10:15

Boiledbeetle · 06/02/2023 10:01

But but but the woman is a man according to the Scottish Prison Service's awful rules.

Funny how they aren't stupid when it's that way round. They know this woman isn't safe in the men's prison!

There's also a line in there that whilst in the young offenders the transman is back identifying as female.

I'm sorry, but if prisoners can just change their mind depending on where they want to spend their sentence then that indicates to me this isn't something that they have to be, it's a choice!

This and always this

Rightsraptor · 06/02/2023 10:29

Yep, they're the sex they claim to be until they suddenly aren't.

There's a piece there also about Andrew Burns, aka Tiffany Scott, who had a meltdown when he discovered his move to a female jail had been blocked. Staff say it had been approved, hence his knowledge and subsequent meltdown.

Has Wee Nicola been lying about it? Oh dear.

NotBadConsidering · 06/02/2023 10:31

So as well as Rapid Prison Onset Gender Dysphoria we also have Rapid Onset Gender Desistence?

NotBadConsidering · 06/02/2023 10:31

Rapid Prison Onset Gender Desistence?

Boiledbeetle · 06/02/2023 10:34

NotBadConsidering · 06/02/2023 10:31

Rapid Prison Onset Gender Desistence?

What could it possibly be about prisons that cause these people to have so many come to Jesus moments just as they are facing time locked up.

Boiledbeetle · 06/02/2023 10:35

Rightsraptor · 06/02/2023 10:29

Yep, they're the sex they claim to be until they suddenly aren't.

There's a piece there also about Andrew Burns, aka Tiffany Scott, who had a meltdown when he discovered his move to a female jail had been blocked. Staff say it had been approved, hence his knowledge and subsequent meltdown.

Has Wee Nicola been lying about it? Oh dear.

Nicola? Lie? Go put yourself on the naughty step for your insolence.

puffyisgood · 06/02/2023 10:40

yeah, I'm sure that this person is a thoroughly bad apple, but it's just unthinkable to put an individual with, putting it crudely, female sexual organs, in a men's prison, it'd be tantamount to an explicit recommendation for repeated rape to be a part of her sentencing.

puffyisgood · 06/02/2023 10:53

I suppose a generous interpretation of twaw/tmam is that they're both somewhere in the territory of being partly true/being true from a certain point of view/being a 'kind' white lie with relatively few victims in most circumstances... but a prison sentence, for anyone, is really the ultimate form of reality biting, making it very time for the above half truths to be at least in the short term swept comprehensively aside.

PaterPower · 06/02/2023 14:48

The hypocrisy is notable, but she’s physically safer in a female unit. Prisoners should be housed according to their sex.

Gender shouldn’t factor into the decision. Vulnerable prisoners who’ve taken actual steps to ‘transition’ (not just clicked the heels of their newly purchased sparkly shoes) should be kept on a segregated wing, so any risks from other prisoners can be managed.

SinnerBoy · 06/02/2023 15:24

TheAustralian · Today 09:57

He’s 20 and in a young offenders jail? Wtf!

It's a confusing article, but I think that this is an actual female, who was posing as a male and is now saying that they are female again. I think...

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