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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Has anyone tried identifying as another thing?

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namechange1487 · 03/02/2023 16:25

Bear with my thinking here.

If current thinking is that a birth certificate can be altered to change sex, then has any other challenges been considered?

I've genuinely had a hard but reasonably successful life. Been a bloody slog though. I genuinely feel older than my 50 odd years. I really really do feel and believe that.

So could I ask to be considered to be 67 and get my pension and retire?

I'm knackered.

I'm being absolutely genuine here. If there is a precedent to change 'facts' due to feelings then I want this.

Has this ever been approached? Or looked at?

If ever women need a campaign I think this could be one.

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NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 03/02/2023 18:56

Transage people are valid and deserve acceptance.

Has anyone tried identifying as another thing?
postcardpuffin · 03/02/2023 18:56

There are people who “identify” as disabled and want surgery to make them so - it’s a well known disorder. This is a v interesting article from The Atlantic from 2000 about this (and being from 2000, it was able to make v interesting and illuminating comparisons with gender in a way that would be unthinkable now…though not any the less true):

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/

Kalpatra · 03/02/2023 18:58

I tried identifying as someone who doesn’t cook and clear up 3-4 different meals every day plus do everyone’s laundry.

But it didn’t work out.

PopGoesTheProsecco · 03/02/2023 18:59

Can I identify as slim? Thanks to nearly three years of long Covid I’m now a size 20 as I can’t do the 5k running any more.

PopGoesTheProsecco · 03/02/2023 19:01

Kalpatra · 03/02/2023 18:58

I tried identifying as someone who doesn’t cook and clear up 3-4 different meals every day plus do everyone’s laundry.

But it didn’t work out.

🤣 but 🤗

EpicChaos · 03/02/2023 19:02

Just the other day i announced to someone that from then on, i was going to identify as ' otherkin '.
I was told, in no uncertain terms, that if i didn't knock that idea on the head immediately, there'd be trouble! lol so i'm back to being just me, a terf and proud of it!

WagyuBeef · 03/02/2023 19:06

I occasionally identify as attractive but not for very long.

Alcemeg · 03/02/2023 19:07

Humans share DNA with all sorts of unlikely things, like bananas and slugs. The possibilities are endless.

Sucessinthenewyear · 03/02/2023 19:09

My 3 year old currently identifies as a space unicorn pup.

tackling · 03/02/2023 19:11

https://www.reddit.com/r/nevergrewup/

No, it's not a joke.

tackling · 03/02/2023 19:12

"Myths about Transage Identity

With all the negative attention on the label "transage" and people identifying as transage lately, I thought it would be a good time to address common myths, misconceptions, and misinformation going around in one place.

Transage, as both a term and an identity, is not made by or for predators

In 2017, internet trolls coined the term "clovergender" as part of an (CWs: CSA mention, transphobia) [anti-gender-identity smear campaign](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/identifying-as-clovergender/), and that campaign also referenced "transage" and "agefluid". That smear campaign has done significant damage to the online reputation of both of those terms, but nevertheless, they were in use before that campaign, and it isn't at all reflective of the reality of our community. Most transage communities - including the Discord server I run - do not accept or endorse predatory behavior.

Transage is not a term made to discredit the LGBTQ+ community

While from the state of current social knowledge, age identity seems like a fantastical concept, I can assure you that we are real people, having real dysphoric experiences - not "black propaganda", or a "psyop". Looking at the long, rich history of this subreddit should be sufficient proof of that, but failing that - simply having an earnest conversation with any of us will thoroughly demonstrate this as well!

Transage people do not aim to change their chronological ages

This is impossible. All of us wish to be socially treated as our identified ages. Most of us wish to change our biological ages, though medical technology is not sufficiently advanced to make this possible as of yet. Some of us wish for legal recognition as well, such as being protected from sexualization in the same way chronological minors are, or being required to have parents/guardians taking care of us, but this is a much more debated topic with no particular consensus at the moment.

Transage people can't be "cured" by therapy

Transage identity is an inherent part of who we are, and isn't something that can be "fixed" by simply addressing underlying complexes or traumas. Furthermore, to many of us, an attempt to do so would qualify as conversion therapy, as despite the distress associated with them, many of us genuinely like our identities, and feel them to be reflective of our values and what we want in life.

Transage identity is not inherently sexual or a fetish

It's an emotional/identity experience that covers all aspects of life. While sexual ageplay does exist, and some transage people engage in it, this isn't an inherent aspect of the identity. Also, many transage people are asexual, or have traumas that make them functionally asexual, so this particular misconception can be very upsetting for them.

Transage isn't connected with transgender or part of the LGBTQ+ umbrella

While many of us who are also transgender feel that age dysphoria and gender dysphoria feel like extremely similar experiences (hence the name "transage" feeling incredibly apt), there is no direct connection or relation between these concepts, nor is there currently any generally recognized alliance between transage and transgender communities.

Transage identity is not a monolithic movement

It's an identity. While there is a common public perception that we're all bad, and this is untrue, it is also untrue that we're all good. People who identify as transage may have any traits or qualities that other members of the population do, including negative ones. Furthermore, there isn't any inherent consensus within the transage population on political opinions or other types of social stances. Knowing one transage person does not mean knowing all, or even most. As such, we should be treated as individuals - individuals who happen to share a common identity, but wholly individuals nonetheless.

​

Thank you for reading this, and if you're coming here from other quarters of the internet - hi! I hope this helps clear up any concerns you might have, and that my words might help you become more accepting of our existence. 💖"

Phrenologistsfinger · 03/02/2023 19:13

I identify as fertile, but it doesn’t stop me having 10+ miscarriages… sadly will cannot triumph over nature!

PopGoesTheProsecco · 03/02/2023 19:13

I sometimes wonder why any white person doing ‘black face’ is considered racist but a man doing drag is not considered anti women and instead attracts comments like ‘brave’. I honestly don’t get it.

PopGoesTheProsecco · 03/02/2023 19:15

Just to clarify I think doing ‘black face’ is equally as wrong as drag (just can’t understand why one is unacceptable ant the other is considered ‘brave’.

Blackbirdblue30 · 03/02/2023 19:17

Is trans species available? I would like to identify as a domestic cat. I would like to sleep on a cushion all day, have my food provided on a tray and every so often be patted and told I'm gorgeous. Bring it on!

EpicChaos · 03/02/2023 19:21

Blackbirdblue30 · 03/02/2023 19:17

Is trans species available? I would like to identify as a domestic cat. I would like to sleep on a cushion all day, have my food provided on a tray and every so often be patted and told I'm gorgeous. Bring it on!

Wasn't there a school that was providing a litter tray for a pupil who identified as a cat?! :-/

I bet they didn't feed it whiskas at lunch time though!

Boiledbeetle · 03/02/2023 19:36

Dartmoorcheffy · 03/02/2023 18:33

I'm identifying as a sloth. It's a great life.

me too. I'm even too sloth to suggest it.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 03/02/2023 19:50

A 26 year old male who sexually assaulted a girl in a restuarant toilet got placed in a girls' penitentiary for under-18s in America.

He's since been charged with murder in a separate offence.

ditalini · 03/02/2023 19:55

I've always thought my place of birth sounded quite silly so I'd like to change it to somewhere else.

Actually, even better I could change it to Belfast and get a European passport. Handy.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 03/02/2023 20:03

In January 2022: A 26-year old transgender woman who pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 10-year-old girl will be moved to a youth treatment center, despite prosecutor’s efforts to keep her in a Los Angeles County Jail. LA County prosecutors said Hannah Tubbs, who identifies as female, also would not have to register as a sex offender once she finishes her two-year sentence.

NY post covering an adult man being placed in juvenile detention

Nine months later he was charged with murder for an offence committed in 2019. This is who they placed with underage girls. He is a hardened offender, of exactly the type that underage male offenders should not be placed with. And he has been placed with girls.

Tubbs charged with murder

Grimchmas · 03/02/2023 20:07

I'd like to identify as living in a world where Brexit didn't happen, we have a better government and properly funded NHS, please.

RoseslnTheHospital · 03/02/2023 20:14

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 03/02/2023 19:50

A 26 year old male who sexually assaulted a girl in a restuarant toilet got placed in a girls' penitentiary for under-18s in America.

He's since been charged with murder in a separate offence.

What the actual fuck?? That is a level of insanity just so far beyond.

hryllilegur · 03/02/2023 20:17

I would like to identify as a the main character in a YA fantasy novel. I’m going to save the world, discover convenient magical powers that allow me to solve all problems and such like, and everyone will think I’m amazing.

Since we’re allowed to reinvent reality now.

NitroNine · 03/02/2023 20:17

Your luck is in @Blackbirdblue30 - well, if you can afford Australian school fees, anyway. The litter box thing was mercifully not true @EpicChaos - but you can understand how it snowballed.

RoseslnTheHospital · 03/02/2023 20:18

Having read the article, it seems like a monumental cock up from the DA combined with badly thought out legislation. The case should have been transferred to an adult court, but because it was a juvenile court the sentence was limited as was the ability to order a transfer to an adult prison. The only mitigating factor is that this man was supposed to be kept in solitary for the duration. I don't know if that was the case.