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What's a good insult that is the opposite to TERF? 🤔

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YourVagesty · 02/02/2023 13:27

I'm just arguing with people online (futile I know) but there's always a point where they'll say 'oh look, we found the TERF' or similar.

What's a good, equally childish riposte? 🤔

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YourVagesty · 02/02/2023 21:28

"Handmaiden. For either sex."

That works too. Definitely need to store that in my brain for future use.

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Greenfairydust · 02/02/2023 21:33

If you need to resort to insults, you have already lost the argument.

TangledWebOfDeception · 02/02/2023 21:35

Well no...sometimes the insult is accurate!

@YourVagesty don't bother. Honestly. Don’t argue with people who are beyond help. It’s bad for you and just convinces them of their position.

YourVagesty · 02/02/2023 21:49

@TangledWebOfDeception

Oh I know, it's just that sometimes, like with today's argument, I just feel like screaming 'ARE YOU COMPLETELY FUCKING STUPID!?' at them, but obviously, that wouldn't get me anywhere 😂

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DifficultBloodyWoman · 02/02/2023 22:07

NyanBinaryJohn · 02/02/2023 13:31

"Yes, I am Tired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits"?

Perhaps?

Love it!

Kalpatra · 02/02/2023 23:19

Pervert

YourVagesty · 02/02/2023 23:37

Perfection @Kalpatra 👌

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Happylittlechicken · 03/02/2023 08:36

MargaritaPie · 02/02/2023 14:38

Almost like asking "what is the opposite to homophobic/racist/sexist".

The answer IMO would basically be someone who isn't these things. A feminist or egalitarian maybe. It wouldn't be an insult though.

So @MargaritaPie youve just defined TERF. Becxaydebuts not women critical of gender who are homophobic (forcing lesbians to accept penises), racist (if black women are women TW are women) and sexist ( you are a woman if you conform to regressive, sexist, misogynistic stereotypes if what a woman is). Well done.

Happylittlechicken · 03/02/2023 08:36

Sorry that should be “because its”, not whatever that random thing was

HebeMumsnet · 03/02/2023 14:18

We've moved this over to our Feminism: Sex & Gender topic now.

CoastalHeart · 03/02/2023 14:48

I just stick to MRA, as that’s exactly what they are.

HagoftheNorth · 03/02/2023 14:52

I seriously think anyone who isn’t a terf is someone who hasn’t (or refuses to) think it through properly. Honestly, the alternative view makes no sense at all

PaterPower · 03/02/2023 15:02

Yup, they’re just flat-earthers with a different religious underpinning.

If you hold the position that humans can change sex or that TWAW and TMAM…

…then I’ve got access to a stash of looted Iraqi gold that’s buried near Basra and I just need a small down payment from you to get it back to this country. You’ll get half the gold. Promise.

Villagetoraiseachild · 03/02/2023 15:24

Thank you @aweegc for sharing the Mary Bourke clip!
That was ace!

CompleteGinasaur · 03/02/2023 15:50

Thought Exclusionary Risible Fuckwits?

nauticant · 03/02/2023 16:03

What is it they hate the most? It's material reality.

Therefore my approach is to talk in terms based in material reality. I'm not insulting them but, trust me, they'll take it very badly.

TWETMIRF · 03/02/2023 16:11

I wish these genderists were more like JWs. Evangelical about their religion but will piss off when you tell them you aren't interested.

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 03/02/2023 16:46

I like a simple ‘So what? Your mum’s a terf’

Because 1) classic ‘your mum’ joke, but with the usual misogyny reversed (you are putting yourself and the mum on the same level, not denigrating her, whilst implying that the ‘found the terf’ person is likely a sexist dick towards zir’s mum on a regular basis.
2) Terves are cool because they speak up, don’t put up with stupid shit and call a spade a spade (well, a man a man, but you know what I mean!)
3) wite it in little letters, it makes it look like the silly made up word it is m, diminishes their power and demonstrates that they use at as pejorative noun for women who don’t pander to men, not as neutral factual acronym for a particular strain of thought amongst radical feminists.
4) it’s probably true. Even the crazy rainbow munchiemoms know deep down that their sons will never be women in the exact same way they are. It’s why they treat them like child prodigies or the strange child saints of history. Ordinary female daughters wouldn’t get a fraction of that raptured attention. Mums of boys who transition as young adults are generally really perplexed by it all, but might try to act supportive because they’ve been conditioned into with all the suicide baiting. There are loads and loads of posts on trans subreddits moaning about how their mum/dad/granny said something that ‘seems a bit terfy’ and it’s usually something really innocuous like asking a 6ft plus adult son to take the bins out because they are stronger than their middle aged mum.
5) It’ll make them paranoid.

Finally:
The only way they can defend against it is by listing all the trans ally stuff their mum has done for them, which will look utterly stupid as a response to a ‘Your mum’ joke.
They can’t even report you for calling their mum a bad name, because they used it first, so they’ll have to admit it’s a pejorative.

If they try a pathetic ‘No she isn’t’ just say ‘yes she is, I know her from Mumsnet’

If they say ‘My mum is dead’ just say, ‘Ah, sorry, thanks for the correction. I shouldn’t have said ‘Your mum IS a terf’ I should’ve said ‘Your mum WAS a terf. RIP Tervern Sister’

and then some obnoxious flower and heart emojis.

This ideology cannot cope with being laughed at. It needs utmost seriousness to survive.
We can defeat it by mocking it.

OneMorePlant · 03/02/2023 16:48

I find saying "ok dude" usually does the trick very well.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 03/02/2023 16:54

Just post the picture of Isla in the the tattoo hiding wig and the penis revealing leggings.

I think that is a riposte to most accusations of Terfdom

soboredtonight · 03/02/2023 17:46

Twats

Trans women and their sacks (ball sacks)

Outwiththenorm · 03/02/2023 17:50

Tired of Explaining Reality to Fantasists? (if Fuckwits is too strong)

WarriorN · 04/02/2023 06:20

'The losers of an argument always resort to name calling.'

WarriorN · 04/02/2023 06:22

Or this is apparently more well known:

"when a debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers”

WarriorN · 04/02/2023 06:26

"I can see you're too immature to have an adult (or effective/ reasonable/ relevant) discussion about this. Go well."

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