SNP encouraging protestors to wear masks to evade being identified and disrupts SfW event in Glasgow

[IwantToRetire]

An SNP minister has been accused of “reckless” behaviour after she publicised an attempt to disrupt a women’s rally which has already been threatened with violence by transgender rights activists.

Christina McKelvie, who is in a relationship with the SNP Justice Secretary Keith Brown, shared details of a “counter-protest” against an event in Glasgow on Sunday, which is being held by the gender critical Let Women Speak group.

The information spread by the equalities minister on her Twitter page denounced the feminist event as “transphobic” and warned it would include “hate speech”.

It suggested those attending a counter-protest wear face masks to keep their identities secret and linked past Let Women Speak events to white supremacy and endorsement of Hitler.

uk.news.yahoo.com/snp-minister-accused-throwing-petrol-194829092.html

I amnot sharing this to make anyone who is going to Glasgow on 5th more anxious than they might be as it is already know there are plans for a counter protest.

I am sharing because (assuming its true) it is despicable that an elected representative should be encouraging this type of behaviour, which she illustrates as knowing it is wrong, by saying they should wear masks.

I dont know if there is a code conduct for MSPs but this just further illustrates that madness that seems to be happening. But doubt she will be censored.

Thread about attending the event is here www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4730605-standing-for-women-glasgow-5th-feb

[GallantGus]

How can there be a “ counter” protest when the Let Women Speak is simply that? Women speaking in public about what matters to them. It’s not a protest.

[IwantToRetire]

To give the news paper their due they have put counter protest in quotes.

But I am less worried about terminology than in an SNP minister apparently encouraging people to conceal their identity, which implies to me that they know what they are doing in unacceptable, otherwise they would have the courage of their convictions and be proud to be recognised.

I just cant make sense of how the SNP seems to have launched off into some other reality. If a Westminster MP had made such a suggestion about an event in London the fleet street media would be all over them and saying they should resign.

I am sure most people in Scotland dont think this is okay. But how is it that the SNP seem to think they are some sort of protected species that allows them to say and do what they want.

Have any of them even canvassed their constituents to find out what they think.

[Boiledbeetle]

Delightful, this is the tweet in the article. There's going to be cabaret!

[EpicChaos]

What absolute, shameful scummery!
There really does need to be some " accountability " taking place but it's definitely not JKR/KJK, or anyone else on our side of the fence that needs to be doing the accounting!

[MargaritaPie]

@GallantGus

How can there be a “ counter” protest when the Let Women Speak is simply that? Women speaking in public about what matters to them. It’s not a protest.

You mean gender critical men and women talking about transpeople?

[EpicChaos]

I meant to add, that i don't know whether she does or not but i would feel a whole lot better, if i knew that KJK wore a stab vest, or something.
I really don't trust the tra's! - i think they're very dangerous and i wouldn't put anything past them.
Not sure if it was the article in The Critic, linked to in another thread, or a different article but one of them mentioned violence from the " far right " - well, tbvh, it's the left that frightens me!

[NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision]

Some more info about the people (probably mostly men) who will be trying to silence women.

wingsoverscotland.com/the-fury-of-the-furries/

[BlackForestCake]

It's only a couple of weeks since elected representatives of the SNP stood grinning in front of a placard calling for feminists to be murdered.

There is something deeply sinister going on with SNP and Greens. What they are doing is the same as Trump did — tacitly encouraging the lunatic fringe.

[IwantToRetire]

I think one thing we need to remember is that it is standard left anti protest tactic to create pre-event a feeling of tension or fear.

And whilst I think PP is very brave in what she is doing I dont think those who are organising furrie protests are thinking of doing anything more that intimidate and drown out women's voices.

Luckily or hopefully this isn't the US where antifa could well come armed to an event. These will be immature juveniles who think they are on the right side of history and are doing this as much to show off to each other, and get selfies.

So please dont help these anti woman protestors by ramping up fear.

I hope there will be a good turn out, and more importantly that the police do their job properly.

[PogueMahoneBoris]

Talking about women's rights. Get the facts straight.

[Boiledbeetle]

@PogueMahoneBoris

Although given the below I'd understand if this time they were all talking about trans issues affecting women's rights.

[Boiledbeetle]

NO MEN, NO MATTER HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THEMSELVES IN WOMEN'S SINGLE SEX SPACES. EVER. NO DEBATE.

[PogueMahoneBoris]

Indeed, with the emphasis on women's rights and males who wish to undermine them. Regardless of how they pretend to identify.

[BlackForestCake]

I mostly agree with IWantToRetire. I don't think it's correct to say it's "standard left anti protest tactic to create tension and fear."

We are not actually dealing with the genuine left here. This milieu is less disciplined, less motivated and has no real analysis of society. They are fantasists and dilettantes rather than activists. Wearing a balaclava and shouting "alerta alerta" is much easier than trying to convince ordinary people of your views.

The stuff about wearing masks and moving in groups does come from mobilisations against fascists, and the point of it is to suggest that feminists too are dangerous fascists and therefore shouldn't have free speech.

I don’t know whether they really believe feminists are going to jump them from behind on their way to the bus stop, or if it's just a cynical lie. I very much suspect the latter.

[Boiledbeetle]

@NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision

Some more info about the people (probably mostly men) who will be trying to silence women.

wingsoverscotland.com/the-fury-of-the-furries/

However, the nature of the community changed with the rise of Queer Theory and the co-morbidity of paraphilias. The more transgender identity politics entered the world of the furry nerd the more the appealing mantra of “I am what I say I am” and being able to dictate other people’s perceptions of reality took hold.

Research by social psychologist Dr Courtney Plante suggests that “furries are seven times more likely than the general population to identify as transgender”. The concept that all boundary-breaking is a goal in and of itself is appealing for those who are outside society’s contours and frequently excluded from their peers growing up.

Boundaries such as consent, age-appropriateness and reality are at that point imperilled. Add in the inherent misogyny of transgenderism permeating the subculture and some have realised the potential of Queer Theory’s obsession with boundary-breaking as a means of punishing females and overriding their ability to say "NO"

sounds lovely! So cute. All soft and furry. Ahhh.👿

[MoirasSaggyBundles]

Meanwhile, Brighton Police are persisting with their alleged "hate speech" allegations against KJK from the September Brighton rally. This fuckers love to double down in the face of overwhelming public opposition to their batshit ideology.

[EpicChaos]

@IwantToRetire " I dont think those who are organising furrie protests are thinking of doing anything more that intimidate and drown out women's
voices. "

Have you seen who is encouraging the furries to protest KJK's event? Do you think they are a nice, friendly, wouldn't a hurt a fly type? Seriously? :-/ jebus!


" We are not actually dealing with the genuine left here. "
Really? I'm not convinced by your stance.


@BlackForestCake
" This milieu is less disciplined, "
Without doubt they have no concept of discipline, in any of it's meanings.

" less motivated "

They are motivated by sheer, unadulterated hate and they have an awful lot of hate for such young people, who've likely never gone without in their lives.

and has no real analysis of society. They are fantasists and dilettantes rather than activists. Wearing a balaclava and shouting "alerta alerta" is much easier than trying to convince ordinary people of your views.

Because they have learned that they don't need to listen to the views of others, they get to call the shots, otherwise they get violent. People get punched/have projectiles thrown at them, like flares, babies are screamed at, or they might have liquids thrown at them, for instance.
I don't for one minute believe they are scared a feminist would jump them at the bus stop but i do believe the likes of those clowns are dangerous and i wouldn't like to be caught alone in a dark alley with any of them. If you want to take that chance, that's up to you but i wouldn't trust any of them as far as i could throw them!

[PriOn1]

Even ignoring the violence aspect (which obviously shouldn’t happen) what does this MSP think “furries” are? It’s yet another sexual fetish being shoved in everyone’s face. I know there have been some political sex scandals revealed, over the years, but most politicians at least had the sense to know that stuff was for behind closed doors. The SNP really do seem to have lost all contact with the reality of most Scottish people.

[Happylittlechicken]

@MargaritaPie maybe the women speaking want to discuss the fact that the thing you and your cohorts said Would never happen. Why are you upset that women are protesting having violent male rapists locked up with vulnerable women? Do you think tha violent male rapists SHOULD be locked up with vulnerable women? Why?

[FOJN]

Is the SNP still a legitimate political party or are they just a bunch of thugs?

[MakingItClear]

I had no idea the SNP and Greens are being run by such a small and incestuous bunch.
I bet the public of Scotland don't know either.

Time for some journalist to fully map it out - who is dating / married to who? Who went to school or university with who? Let's see it in black and white.

[MidsomerMurmurs]

@FOJN

Is the SNP still a legitimate political party or are they just a bunch of thugs?

It’s joyous and civic thuggery. Only Tories could possibly have a problem with it.

[WickedSerious]

'Furries Against Facism'

Roll on the next ice age.

[BettyFilous]

@WickedSerious

'Furries Against Facism'

Roll on the next ice age.

Yep, it’s a shame that green comet skirted round the planet.

[BlackForestCake]

@MakingItClear Scotland is a village compared to Westminster-based politics. The political and media class all know each other.

Sturgeon, Alasdair Allan, Angela Constance of the SNP and Murdo Fraser of the Tories were all at Glasgow University at the same time.