SNP encouraging protestors to wear masks to evade being identified and disrupts SfW event in Glasgow

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An SNP minister has been accused of “reckless” behaviour after she publicised an attempt to disrupt a women’s rally which has already been threatened with violence by transgender rights activists.

Christina McKelvie, who is in a relationship with the SNP Justice Secretary Keith Brown, shared details of a “counter-protest” against an event in Glasgow on Sunday, which is being held by the gender critical Let Women Speak group.

The information spread by the equalities minister on her Twitter page denounced the feminist event as “transphobic” and warned it would include “hate speech”.

It suggested those attending a counter-protest wear face masks to keep their identities secret and linked past Let Women Speak events to white supremacy and endorsement of Hitler.

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I amnot sharing this to make anyone who is going to Glasgow on 5th more anxious than they might be as it is already know there are plans for a counter protest.

I am sharing because (assuming its true) it is despicable that an elected representative should be encouraging this type of behaviour, which she illustrates as knowing it is wrong, by saying they should wear masks.

I dont know if there is a code conduct for MSPs but this just further illustrates that madness that seems to be happening. But doubt she will be censored.

Thread about attending the event is here www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4730605-standing-for-women-glasgow-5th-feb

Asking them to wear masks seems disingenuous. They probably trained the very same police in "Boundaries are Hate" for lots of £ the previous week. Nothing about trans ideology is incompatible with our institutionally misogynist, racist police.

Or is it because they are fully aware that known paedophiles and violent criminals are going to be protesting and they don't want any awkward social media posts when they get recognised?

You mean talk about a rapist being put in a women's prison whereas before there were no rapists? Why would you want to shut down this important discussion on public policy?

I don't think it's correct to say it's "standard left anti protest tactic to create tension and fear."

Of course it bloody isn't as anyone who has been active in the left and attended rallies over the decades knows.

I remember fronting a peace rally in the 80s and coming head-to-head with a bunch of fascist little bovver boys with scarves partly covering their faces making as if to throw rocks at us.

We, the women, who marched for a nuclear-free future and for a welfare state rather than bombs are the left. We've been infiltrated by individuals who behave like the right did in the 80s but I'm not giving up my ground to them.

You mean gender critical men and women talking

Men are only allowed to speak if all women who want to have spoken and there is time.

Agree with pp.

I've been on many a left wing protest pre kids, it was never us that wore masks.

Oh hi @MargaritaPie

I don't think you ever answered the posters asking you if you think the rapist 'Isla Bryson' is a man or a woman, did you?

For those of you outside Scotland wondering what the political culture is like here, let me show you. The SNP Equalities minister, responsible for 'women and gender equality' publicly encourages a counter-protest against a women's rights meeting on Sunday.

this is this woman. From Susan dalgetys Twitter feed

This is SNP activism 101. They did the whole 'festival' / 'carnival' thing with the Indy Ref too. And they characterised any one who had questions (just questions) about independence as 'feart', 'unionist', 'project fear' etc. So you always have the fun side vs the horrible side with them.

With Indy ref, they afterwards went around saying how happy and engaged everyone was blah blah, ignoring how alienated and angry the majority of the population felt. They actively worked to align Scottish identity with independence, and implied you weren't a proper Scot if you didn't agree with them. It was utterly vile.

I still get a burning rage when I think of it. Nasty manipulative mean little narrow minded nationalists.

I suspect they want to do the same here: have the media coverage of happy smiling rainbow people vs angry women shouting into a microphone.

What would defeat them, is if the circus of witches dancing grew at every protest. That was such a powerful clever response. Because that's what they're trying to do: 'burn witches'.

I absolutely despise the SNP.

I don't think it's correct to say it's "standard left anti protest tactic to create tension and fear."

Agreed. It’s a tactic used by both the far right, far left and any group in between - political, faith based or whatever - which decides that others should be prevented from speaking up.

This isn’t a left/right issue. The Conservative party has many gender ideologues, as does Labour. The LDs are probably the most captured, and they’re traditionally a centrist party. The Greens, who should know the science better than any of the other parties, seem to be a GC lost cause, despite the efforts of some Green women.

' Alerta Alerta!' Ah yes the vernacular speech of Glasgow.

They really are fantasists who imagine themselves in the Bolivian jungle with Che Guevara.

There is just such an exposé researched by Wings Over Scotland. Here's the thread about it.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4726401-wings-over-scotland-the-grooming-of-holyrood

So many points.

What was the meeting on sunday that the women's minister spoke out against.

Admit I was probably casual in saying "left" but was thinking more of the (faux) left, an example of which is what is know as the "black bloc" that usual turns out for marchs in London. Primarily young white men, who dress in black and wear masks, and actually just go for photo ops to get on the front page of papers. eg climbing on Churchill's statue. They very rarely do anything else politically. Another is the SWP who turn up at any event with an incredibly number of banners which innocents participants take, so that in pictures the event will look like it has been organised by the SWP. But both these groups do like to encourage confrontation with the police, because this also helps their narrative as with any luck there will be pictures of police being violent. Sister's Uncut is a sort of "feminist" combination of these too, and showed in hijacking the Sarah Everard peaceful memorial into an anti police demonstration that the media is more than ready to be persuaded to go for the minority but more headline grabbing narrative.

So take on board BlackForestGate observations.

So I am not underestimating that bad actors could hijack the furries, but (sorry didn't note the name) but their evolution is from a very different politics, eg queer politics, than anti state left.

But on a different point, I am really sad and angry that Brighton Police are persisting against PP.

How is that possible.

Are there are links to updates about this?

Amazing just seen this on the thread about the LWS event:

4 of us are driving up for the day from the southwest of England. 16 hour round driving trip.

The Black Pampers - ala Antifa ala Black bloc often turn up masked at pro women events these days. They are usually the ones who cause any physical trouble but things have been mostly scuffles sign snatching.

US Furries have connections to violence, sexual assault and the Far Right there was a mass shooting by a neo-nazi furry last year as well as crimes by other furries. So they can be a problem.

However UK furries I don't think have been connected to any violence so I would not be too worried about them compared to the black pampers. However if people are careful stick to the group it should be safe enough in general. There are likely to be good numbers at this event and hopefullty the Police will handle it well. I think they are way more careful thesedays because TRA violence has happened before at these events.

Presumably in the Range Rover that Daddy gave Tarquin on his 18th birthday.

Christina McKelvie, who is in a relationship with the SNP Justice Secretary Keith Brown, shared details of a “counter-protest” against an event in Glasgow on Sunday, which is being held by the gender critical Let Women Speak group.

The information spread by the equalities minister on her Twitter page denounced the feminist event as “transphobic” and warned it would include “hate speech”.

😱Equalities minister ?

Equalities minister ?

The SNP government don't consider that the equality act includes women as a protected category. Impact assessments for the GRA changes did not consider the impact on women.

No, it's literally what it says, Let Women Speak. There are no big words there @MargaritaPie, why does the English language always cause you such confusion?
You could shoehorn trans matters into a debate on lunchtime sandwiches.

Presumably in the Range Rover that Daddy gave Tarquin on his 18th birthday.

I believe it's 4 women driving up for the LWS event rather than 4 furries trying to stop the talk.

Can someone screenshot the tweet for me please? She's blocked me on Twitter 🙄 This is the same MSP who complained about suffragette ribbons tied to the railings of her office building causing alarm and distress to her employees.

I can assure you that I will not be wasting my day in Glasgow talking about trans people . No thanks. Instead I will be meeting like minded people and talking about interesting topics; safeguarding of children in education setting, women's right to privacy, dignity and safety in places where it matters.

Oh, and Let Women Speak events are not protests, just a bunch of women meeting to talk about stuff that matters to them. Its not offensive for women to meet.

Just checked now at 7.30 pm this was on her account

The Orange Order are quite protective of George Square. Maybe they could act as security. I've a funny feeling the furries would soon decide they had to be home washing their costumes if they thought they would be faced with them. [Disclaimer - I'm not a fan of the OO but I would happily pay to see them facing off against the furries]

It will be interesting to see how many turn up for the counter protest. When Meghan Murphy was in Glasgow a few years ago there weren't any organised counter-protests. It just shows how emboldened the TRAs, misogynists and incels have become because of the support of the SNP and Greens. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I find all this mind-boggling. I’d love to go to an event like this, but I don’t have anyone to go with, and I’d probably bottle going alone. It’s a bit confusing though - these ‘anti fascist’ protesters, aren’t they behaving in erm… a very fascistic way? Or has the word ‘fascist’ been completely redefined now too?

Thanks boiledbeetle has she removed the tweet encouraging people to wear masks?