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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are gender neutral people "anti-trans?"

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whereaw · 18/01/2023 09:38

Just been pondering this in response to another thread.

I am a woman. I don't really believe gender is a thing beyond being a social construct.

Gender neutral people would agree, I presume.

Trans people believe sex or gender is the most all encompassing thing. And must switch to be one or the other.

So, if I am anti trans, are gender neutral people also?

How can you believe both that gender doesn't exist for you, ie be neutral, whilst also believe it does for someone else so much that they have to change it?

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BoredOfThisMansWorld · 19/01/2023 08:54

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz
I totally agree with your point that the concept of trans relies on the stereotypes existing. A society genuinely free from sexism and homophobia would have few trans people. All the stereotypical signifiers would no longer make sense.

I find it so weird that people who think they're progressive accept the homophobia inherent to trans ideology.

maslinpan · 19/01/2023 08:54

Being non binary or agender is so nebulous. I would always want to ask the question, when you are offered health screening such as for prostate or cervical cancer, are you going to reject that completely due to your feelings about gender?

Zebracat · 19/01/2023 09:49

I think many of us are non binary, in that we reject gender stereotypes. But TRAs , or the sort that come here, use sexist gender stereotyping to dismiss us as a bunch of middle aged/ old women, which does seem a contradiction.
I think that the trans and non binary people who identify with the movement are drawing closer together , as it seems many trans people now want to play with gender, rather than adopting another gender identity wholesale, hence beards, tits and tackle as a look. This could be really healthy, except for the reliance on surgery and hormone treatments which are, to me, being misused.

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