Is anyone else watching the debate in the HOC live now?

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Gripping stuff. Unfortunately I've missed the 1st 30 minutes, and I'm hoping I can catch up.

IDK, Sausage. I thought they weren't supposed to use dehumanising insults. I do get the impression the SNP MPs are tolerated and indulged and seen as not very competent.
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has Kemi said anything?

But bad thing is they represent us Scottish people. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

I am so disappointed in Philippa Whitford - I thought she would see sense. (Although most of the Scottish MPs are disappointing). Glad to hear some common sense from other areas of the UK.

Alister Jack is impressive

Bardell can't understand why she didn't need a certificate to come out as a lesbian. Can she really be that thick?

Thank you. Am trying to find on iPlayer - am incompetent!

Here's some information about the Section 35:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/17/scotland-gender-recognition-bill-what-is-a-section-35-order

Lindsay Hoyle's still in the Chair I think. He's not usually a fan of insults. Maybe he wants it in Hansard i.e. not withdrawn. He is a canny old operator.

@SinnerBoy I'm afraid I have to regard the Guardian as a 'hostile witness' on these proceedings and this story.

You can't refer to your colleagues as 'rabid gammon'. You just can't.

I know! It should at least be 'my honourable friend the rabid gammon'. Is the speaker asleep?

'he wishes to chunter from a sedentary position' - Flynn again. Fucksake.

I am embarrassed by these idiots. This is not how you debate. This is like kids in a playground crowing and calling the grown ups names. They do NOT represent me, they are an embarrasment to Scotland.

Seems he is very corse with his old fashioned insults.

Actually, I think most of the other MPs have fucked off and left the SNP to strut around making cheap jibes at an empty house.

I m watching Flynn and want to shake him

Ooh he didn't like Chris Bryant's (surprisingly) grown up intervention. Flynn was expecting outright genuflection.

We all know pricks like this. Know-it-all arrogant arses in love with the sound of their own voice. It's really transparent and a very unconvincing performance.

I actually don't care about what the SNP say on this. It was the other MPs I wanted to hear, that was worthwhile. Switching off now.

IDK, Sausage. I thought they weren't supposed to use dehumanising insults. I do get the impression the SNP MPs are tolerated and indulged and seen as not very competent.

Which is actually a kind of echo of the way trans activists tend to get coddled. I wonder what that tells us. It's kind of an alignment of low-quality individuals who expect to get their way using grievance politics?

It's 'symbolic thistles' now

Quoting Sit Walter Scott.
Plonker.

I think might be what's happened!! I paused it as found it repetitive and base. Just flinging insults.

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@SinnerBoy I'm afraid I have to regard the Guardian as a 'hostile witness' on these proceedings and this story

OK, I understand why, but it's just a factual thing, unlike the bollocks they posted about events.

Fair enough; thanks for the link. I do read a lot of articles from different sources. It's the only way with this stuff to have a hope in hell of keeping up.

I think that's the trouble with a lot of politicians like Keir Starmer - they're so damn busy they rely too much on SPADs giving them 'digests', who may or may not have an agenda.

Might be parallels between casting themselves as the put-upon downtrodden victims of Westminster, too. Maybe that's where the affinity comes from.

Brave, righteous, and wronged.

So much angst and over acting