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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lorraine GMB TRA interview coming up

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mrshoho · 17/01/2023 09:22

Lorraine on GMB about to interview TRA Hannah Graf. Should be interesting...

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sensechec · 17/01/2023 09:26

LK is such a dope

mrshoho · 17/01/2023 09:27

Urggg. "Women have nothing to worry about with transwomen using single sex bathrooms"

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sensechec · 17/01/2023 09:28

'Trans rights are under attack'

Da fuck they are

sensechec · 17/01/2023 09:29

Under privileged, little access to the media?!

This guys on another planet

mrshoho · 17/01/2023 09:31

Fuck right off Lorraine with your faux innocent simplicity.

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Rainbowshit · 17/01/2023 09:32

Ugh she's just got such a huge amount of internalised misogyny.

No Lorraine. It's female rights that are under attack

sensechec · 17/01/2023 09:33

She just loves being a pet of the rainbow.

She's all #bekind

Clymene · 17/01/2023 09:38

Hannah Graf who rents women's wombs and buys their babies.

LK is a simpering fool

sensechec · 17/01/2023 09:39

'You're a wife and a mother of two'

Urgh

FfeminyddCymraeg · 17/01/2023 09:40

Just a changed to an administrative process like getting married, my arse.

I don’t often watch LK but was disappointed in how she just fell in line and said ‘be kind’ and didn’t interrogate what HG had to say.

🤬

sensechec · 17/01/2023 09:41

FfeminyddCymraeg · 17/01/2023 09:40

Just a changed to an administrative process like getting married, my arse.

I don’t often watch LK but was disappointed in how she just fell in line and said ‘be kind’ and didn’t interrogate what HG had to say.

🤬

She's always like that. She's a TRA pet

mrshoho · 17/01/2023 09:42

Really shouldn't be allowed to give screentime to these views without a representative to challenge and point out the potential harm to women and girls. Very sneaky how TRAs such as Hannah who comes across as non threatening just getting on with life, try to steer this a problem for a tiny, marginalised group. That's why so many people in the past took little notice of these changes and demands as they like me weren't aware of how by being kind and accommodating meant giving up women's rights.

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sensechec · 17/01/2023 09:46

mrshoho · 17/01/2023 09:42

Really shouldn't be allowed to give screentime to these views without a representative to challenge and point out the potential harm to women and girls. Very sneaky how TRAs such as Hannah who comes across as non threatening just getting on with life, try to steer this a problem for a tiny, marginalised group. That's why so many people in the past took little notice of these changes and demands as they like me weren't aware of how by being kind and accommodating meant giving up women's rights.

I'm glad Hannah's voice still sounds entirely male though.

nilsmousehammer · 17/01/2023 09:53

mrshoho · 17/01/2023 09:27

Urggg. "Women have nothing to worry about with transwomen using single sex bathrooms"

When a male of any identity walks in some females have to walk out and have nothing so that male can choose from everything

That worries me. That should worry any decent person of any sex.

Musomama1 · 17/01/2023 09:54

LKs whole schtick these days is to not rock any boats so this is unsurprising but I do think audiences will begin to see through this now issues are being discussed , nothing from the other side.

Interesting that LK was at Camilla's VAWG charity do and, has LK seen those census figures?

FunnyTalks · 17/01/2023 10:11

Musomama1 · 17/01/2023 09:54

LKs whole schtick these days is to not rock any boats so this is unsurprising but I do think audiences will begin to see through this now issues are being discussed , nothing from the other side.

Interesting that LK was at Camilla's VAWG charity do and, has LK seen those census figures?

Oh lib fems are v conflicted about the Femicide census! ( source I try and follow lots of different viewpoints on social media and lurk in various groups)

They know they need those statistics in order to keep feminism relevant and strong enough for transwomen to appropriate. But it hurts their gendered souls that K I S is a "terf". Earnest discussions about stealing the data and then trying to claim ownership of it, as if to purify it. Just like the people who try and separate Harry Potter from JKR. Didn't occur to a single one to collate their own gender based census.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2023 10:18

She just loves being a pet of the rainbow.

So many women do. Simper simper.

Tiredo · 17/01/2023 10:19

It was the whole.. “oh for goodness sake, why do people think trans women are all predators waiting in the toilet for you and your children- have some common sense!” I’m paraphrasing LK but in that interview she said exactly those words, the notion that a woman and her child is lacking common sense when they feel genuine fear when I man/TW enters what should be an intimate female only space made me feel physically sick, especially as a woman with a daughter.

However this mornings debate on it seemed to have much more ‘common sense’ and in favour of actual women and their rights to feeling and being safe.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2023 10:20

Didn't occur to a single one to collate their own gender based census.

That would involve doing some actual work rather than whinging on social media to their echo chamber.

LizzieSiddal · 17/01/2023 10:21

Lorraine has close associations with Drag culture, she’s been a judge on that big BBC drag Queen show, sorry can’t remember its name and she presented another Drag show on ITV. So she’s got financial skin in the game.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2023 10:23

Rupaul's Drag Race?

unclebuck · 17/01/2023 10:37

She's Eddie Izzards bff isn't she. They have super girlie sleepovers with face packs and pillow fights.

WinterTrees · 17/01/2023 11:19

“oh for goodness sake, why do people think trans women are all predators waiting in the toilet for you and your children- have some common sense!”

LK has placed herself firmly in this camp for years to earn head pats from the rainbow community. That's her TV USP - her brand is gossipy and down to earth, 'one of the girls' but also a sort of cosy mum/best friend figure to gay men and drag queens. Her tinkly-laugh, be-kind simper has wide appeal.

But she needs to be very careful now.

Too many women KNOW that a man in a women's toilet is a threat. Most women are not comfortable with the thought of their daughters - perhaps just gaining independence as teens, or finding their feet in the world as young women - encountering strong, large, male-bodied people in station toilets late at night, when out with their friends in shopping centres or in pubs or clubs when they might have been drinking. Women KNOW, OFTEN FROM EXPERIENCE that this is dangerous. They don't want those real, evidence based concerns hand-waved away by a TV personality who is paid millions to appear ordinary while never having to worry about the risks she's minimising.

But I suspect she won't change. As unclebuck says, she's Izzard's bff and has fawned over Munroe, Lees, Shon Faye and most of the rest of them at some time or other. I just wish she'd be honest enough to come right out and declare herself an MRA.

Tiredo · 17/01/2023 11:25

@WinterTrees You’re so right. It was such gaslighting I honestly couldn’t believe what I was hearing and so dangerous. It makes you wonder why we bother when we’re (women) not rowing the same boat, especially when she’s off rowing theirs (TRA) on national tv.

mrshoho · 17/01/2023 11:28

It is infuriating listening to her smirk at the thought of women being scared of transwomen using female toilets etc. How insulting to women and girls who know the dangers of making this law.

There was one example of the wee girl in a supermarket toilet. Ten years old and had to fight off a male (transwoman) in the middle of the day in a supposedly safe environment.

metro.co.uk/2019/03/16/transgender-woman-18-sexually-assaulted-girl-10-morrisons-toilet-8914577/

What do you say about that Lorraine? How would you look her and her Mother in the face and smirk at them?

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