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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Keir Starmer fudge fudge waffle waffle

67 replies

xalo · 15/01/2023 09:37

On Laura Kuenssberg just now.
Utterly useless. And why are both using gender instead of sex?

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ArabellaScott · 15/01/2023 20:20

So it begins:

twitter.com/Lab4TransRights/status/1614635085256433665

'The comments made today by Party leadership represent a further shattering of the trust we warned about last month.

Labour cannot continue to treat our lives as a debate.'

nilsmousehammer · 15/01/2023 20:27

Well there's nothing like direct experience of discovering that rationality, reasonability and capacity to consider anyone else's needs or interests is missing from this political lobby.

You do exactly as they say all the time, or they'll scream, Keir. It's not like we didn't tell you.

xalo · 15/01/2023 20:53

Toys.Out of pram.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/01/2023 20:56

xalo · 15/01/2023 20:53

Toys.Out of pram.

This - and all because they want 16 year olds to be able to "change sex".

NecessaryScene · 15/01/2023 20:57

Labour cannot continue to treat our lives as a debate

Do you think it would ever work if women said that?

ResisterRex · 15/01/2023 20:59

twitter.com/bbcnews/status/1614613566522380296?s=46&t=SQ8mYzRr-3LwKmXGWnpEow

Must say, I'd never have bet on the proponents for sterilising gay children, to also be so concerned about damage to 16yos in the army! Almost like they don't really care, yet found A Thing To Point At.

ArabellaScott · 15/01/2023 21:00

twitter.com/LGBTLabScot/status/1614594707606077441

'We are deeply disappointed'

ResisterRex · 15/01/2023 21:05

ArabellaScott · 15/01/2023 21:00

There's a reply under there which I can agree with:

"Both sidesing isn't going get him anywhere."

No. It isn't.

ArabellaScott · 15/01/2023 21:06

#1 Trending in politics on Twitter:

Keir Starmer fudge fudge waffle waffle
ScrollingLeaves · 15/01/2023 21:10

I cannot see why ‘Trans lives are non negotiable’ is an understandable response to Keir Starmer saying 16 is too young for such a momentous step. What does it mean exactly? Suicide if you don’t get a certificate at 16?

I thought a GRC wasn’t even supposed to make a difference to rights in the Equality Act over and above the rights afforded in any case to the protected characteristic of Gender Reassignment.

ResisterRex · 15/01/2023 21:16

He's "not welcome at Pride" now:

twitter.com/homolittlest/status/1614685624329728001?s=46&t=hlk0Vbc2uUKBb0HwbtdHmg

xalo · 15/01/2023 22:19

Settles in with popcorn..

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ScrollingLeaves · 15/01/2023 23:33

ResisterRex · Today 21:16
He's "not welcome at Pride" now:
twitter.com/homolittlest/status/1614685624329728001?s=46&t=hlk0Vbc2uUKBb0HwbtdHmg

I saw one reply to that tweet which struck me as possibly quite true:

.I have absolutely no trust in Starmer; I suspect LabourLGBTQ+++ has said agree ‘No’ to 16 year olds so you’ll appear reasonable pushing for Self-ID for 18+ and rapists in women’s prisons

chilling19 · 16/01/2023 01:06

xalo · 15/01/2023 22:19

Settles in with popcorn..

Me too! 😂

Parisj · 16/01/2023 12:14

The Times is reporting that Starmer said sex based rights matter 😲 think it was in an LBC interview, Guardian also reporting. And may support Sunak blocking Scottish legislation

'I approach it on the basis that for 99.9-something percent of women, it is all about biology. Sex-based rights matter, and we must preserve all those wins that we’ve had for women over many years, and including safe spaces for women.'

nilsmousehammer · 16/01/2023 13:22

Yeah now explain what you mean 'safe space for women' Starmer.

I'll open the book now on it actually meaning 'women and any male people who want to be in there with them'

ScrollingLeaves · 16/01/2023 13:37

Safe spaces set aside exclusively for the 99.9% about whom ‘woman’ means their biology?

Or, spaces for the full 100% who are called women but among whom there are 0.1% men who ‘are all about’ wanting to be women but are male biologically.

Does anyone know if his maths is right on the basis of the census?

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