Pitts Children’s Hospital looking into transplant of vagina/uterus from live donors

[RichardBarrister]

The Gender and Sexual Development programme at Children’s Hospital of Pittsburgh has been researching and presenting on transplant of female reproductive organs such as vagina and uterus from live donors into tw.

The ‘study’ carried out asked 182 tw if they would like to have female body parts transplanted so that they could experience menstruation, pregnancy and child birth. 94% of respondents said yes.

I know this has been discussed as a desire in various forums for some time but seeing a Children’s Hospital that also treats gender dysphoric children with puberty blockers and x sex hormones was still a surprise.

Apart from the fact that it seems medically impossible when you consider the complexities of a female body and how brilliantly designed we are, does this sound rather concerning when a hospital that also treats vulnerable young girls is looking to source organs and carry out transplants?

What do the donors do without a vagina?
An ovary transplant would also be necessary as this is involved in menstruating but how would you make ovaries function in a male body?

Modern science is still a long way behind on women’s health and understanding of our bodies - how do they think they know enough to replicate our reproductive capability in a male body?

It seems to me that if you are going to try and transplant a whole load of different body parts between two people which probably won't work due to the chassis being the wrong chassis, not having the right hormones etc...
At this point aren't you better off trying to do a brain transplant between the two? Its probably medically simpler, and would involve a lot less chopping and surgery.
Find a female and male who both want to swap, and just swap the brains.
Detransition is gonna get a bit more complicated though........ especially if only one wants to.

I've long thought that the less complex "medical solution" would be a head transplant onto a body of the opposite sex.

Maybe they could arrange a swap. TW seeks TM for willy/vag swap. I wouldn't even be surprised.

Explains why young women are being encouraged down this path. All those spare uterine bit and bobs for the tw. It's the US, so they'll probably be paid or get treatment reduced or free for their own 'gender affirming care'.

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I have to point out that we are not beautifully designed in that we are not designed at all.

It's fantasy. It's not even sci-fi because that needs an actual scientific basis. It's pure, unadulterated fantasy.

On the bright side if it does work we can demand straight men start taking up their fair share of the pregnancy/child birthing within their family units (wives can carry baby one and then donate her uterus to hubby for baby 2! Rinse and repeat if hubby runs off with younger OW!) and that gay men have dead-donor uteruses installed rather than exploiting poor women in developing countries via surrogacy!

We’re gonna need a LOT more surgeons but the rate of Maternity pay should go up considerably!

Yes, we must never lose focus of this.

So, we have a situation where the medical profession are shaming expectant mothers about drinking half a glass of prosecco at Christmas, yet are falling over themselves to try and gestate a human baby in a fucking man?!!!!

On the bright side if it does work

I mean, it won’t work. But perhaps any serious research into the topic (which has never happened) would have the side effects of curing female infertility and give some insight into pregnancy complications and how they can be are prevented.

If male pregnancy were made possible, then women would benefit from pregnancy being so well understood as to make the impossible happen.

weirdly however all the “research” into this topic seems to focus on butchering women’s body parts and torturing female rats. Almost like it’s driven by misogyny and biology denial, not from a desire to actually understand how pregnancy works.

It’s a shame that the same excitement can’t be mustered for research into making pregnancy and childbirth easier for women.

Don't be so silly. The medical profession is completely fine with the prosecco and absolutely not interested in trying to get men pregnant.

A couple of whack jobs on either item says nothing at all about the medcial profession, and its ridiculous of you to suggest such a thing. Quite offensive too.

Imagine the horror and confusion that those rats were put through, after being sewn together. They wouldn't have been able to get away from each other at all.

Don’t remove yourselves from the donor registry please. This won’t happen in this country (I would hope ever but at least for a long time) and removing yourself, as a protest, when you could have a chance of saving someone else in reality is sad when there are so qa

(Sorry that didn’t post properly)…..so many people waiting for a good match on the transplant list.

An adolescent uterus is not fully matured. Teenage girls have babies but there are dangers and risks associated with that, the size of the female pelvis being one.

How would a teenage uterus mature in a male body, who would presumably not be a teenager🧐..and where would it go? I assume somewhere in the abodomen but men have other organs there, you can't just cut out the prostate and pop in a uterus and expect it to be accepted as a transplanted organ let alone function. There are different shapes for one!

These people are idiots. Dangerous idiots. There shouldn't be anywhere near any child, healthy or not.

*implant (not transplant)

I and many others did just this many years ago now.
Theres a thread about it in the annals of MN somewhere.

This exact scenario came up and the organ donation site wasnt absolutely clear wether any reproductive parts could be re used.
We were of course roundly derided as "this would never happen "

Hahahhahahaha

There are no words for how dystopian and unethical this idea is.

Also, The Danish Girl. The recipient died from it...

Also, The Danish Girl. The recipient died from it...

Has it ever been established who they took the womb from?

An ovary transplant would also be necessary as this is involved in menstruating but how would you make ovaries function in a male body?

Which would mean the transman would have to pay CS? Or not?

And SURELY penis implants would be massively easier and safer. Why are womb implants being talked about first? Unless they are <bleaches eyeballs in anticipation> Almost like, for some reason, TW are more important.

I second this. I think we did have confirmation before that wombs etc are not even considered in the tragic circumstance that a woman is about to die and her family are asked if they would be willing to allow some of her organs to be transplanted. Cornea, heart, kidney, liver - I expect there are others. All of them potentially life-changing to someone else. At 61 I am probably past the age where any of mine would be good enough to transplant, but I've been on the transplant register all my adult life and all my family know anybody can have any bit of me that's useful to someone else. (I have told my longsuffering husband that that doesn't include my reproductive system, but nobody would want it, riddled with endometriosis as it was until the menopause.)

(I'm influenced here by knowing through work several people who would have died young without a transplant. Womb transplants are science fiction. @nauticant's excellent post is absolutely on the money about why this is even under discussion.)

Just proves it's all for men. The amount of money pumped into 'research' for utter fantasy.

Well I'm not opting back in to the organ donor register until I have, in writing on my record, a list of organs I'm willing to donate and a space to note the organs I'm not willing to donate.

Still can't get over the fact that this research to benefit men is being carried out at a Children's hospital. It highlights how children are viewed by so many involved with this ideology - and depressingly explains the repeated incidents where safeguarding children is undermined.