Pitts Children’s Hospital looking into transplant of vagina/uterus from live donors

[RichardBarrister]

The Gender and Sexual Development programme at Children’s Hospital of Pittsburgh has been researching and presenting on transplant of female reproductive organs such as vagina and uterus from live donors into tw.

The ‘study’ carried out asked 182 tw if they would like to have female body parts transplanted so that they could experience menstruation, pregnancy and child birth. 94% of respondents said yes.

I know this has been discussed as a desire in various forums for some time but seeing a Children’s Hospital that also treats gender dysphoric children with puberty blockers and x sex hormones was still a surprise.

Apart from the fact that it seems medically impossible when you consider the complexities of a female body and how brilliantly designed we are, does this sound rather concerning when a hospital that also treats vulnerable young girls is looking to source organs and carry out transplants?

What do the donors do without a vagina?
An ovary transplant would also be necessary as this is involved in menstruating but how would you make ovaries function in a male body?

Modern science is still a long way behind on women’s health and understanding of our bodies - how do they think they know enough to replicate our reproductive capability in a male body?

This takes women as support human beings to a whole new depressing level 😡

“Learn from me, if not by my precepts, at least by my example, how dangerous is the acquirement of knowledge, and how much happier that man is who believes his native town to be his world, than he who aspires to become greater than his nature will allow.”

― Mary Shelley, Frankenstein

If the recipient is male, the surgery would be implant, not transplant.

Thanks for the link to article on successfully transplanted uterus. However, it is a very different thing to transplant a uterus into a female body with an otherwise normal female reproductive system, than to transplant it into a male body .

I just spat out my lunch.
good god, what fresh hell is this

I believe that the uteruses are then removed as soon as any pregnancy has finished.

To drug regime to keep the uterus from being rejected is considered too risky for long term health of the patient.

IIRC, in the very few cases where a woman has had a womb transplant and become pregnant, it's obviously been a very high risk pregnancy involving very regular check ups and monitoring. The baby has to be delivered by section and the womb is removed in the same operation as it has served its purpose.

All very different from the deranged musings of those on Twitter who see this as plug and play and imagine a male body could have a womb inserted and suddenly it's all systems go, periods, pregnancy, breastfeeding, the lot! No thought whatsoever for the possible effect on a baby's health of the vast amount of drugs that would need to be taken for the womb not to be rejected, on top of cross-hormones.

Was just about to post the same, @Helleofabore. The uterus is transplanted to facilitate a pregnancy and removed afterwards. The idea of keeping a patient on anti rejection drugs long term in order to keep a uterus functioning without the possibility of a pregnancy is unethical. Amongst other unethical aspects of this idea.

How much money did it cost to conduct a study on a study with no actual chance of implementation. What a horrific waste of resources and time.

Sick. Removing female organs in order to prop up the fantasies, fetishes, or extreme poor mental health of men.

It won't make them women. Nothing can.
It also shows how little they know about the internal workings of women's bodies.

I suppose when those with the demands are male and there is money involved, there is no such thing as too far...

The (horrific) Chinese rat study should have put the kibosh on this Buffalo Bill fantasy.

To make “male pregnancy” work they literally had to sew a male rat with a uterus implant to a pregnant female rat so it became a very large parasite upon the body and endocrine system and immune system of a pregnant female.

Unsurprisingly, even this horrific procedure failed nearly every time, IIRC there was only one “success” at bringing the fetus located in a parasitic male body to term.

I’m sure the people conducting this “study” know it’s impossible- usually scientists or doctors discussing this are in the transgender industry and seem to be motivated by the desire for MtF fantasists to give them money.

OMG
this is utterly awful
someone should make a book/film out of this it’s so contentious
oh hang on, they already did
it’s called ‘Never Let Me Go’

Totally disgusting thought . Maybe TW can have women's reproductive organs transplanted keep their cock & balls and literally GO FUCK THEMSELVES !

That book was heavy on my mind as I read this thread.

All this, all the medication, risks, drugs, expense, huge commitment of time, for a male person to have an experience ?

Although I admit I'm struggling to get past that this is a children's hospital .

I’m sure the people conducting this “study” know it’s impossible- usually scientists or doctors discussing this are in the transgender industry and seem to be motivated by the desire for MtF fantasists to give them money.

This is what I cut and paste whenever this gruesome subject comes up:

This business of uterine "transplants" into men appears to be about science but it is not. It's about getting the idea out there that men can give birth too, but not just yet, there are a few technical details to be sorted out first. So while we're waiting for the inevitable, let's get on with the social sciences side of things and accept that since men can give birth too (not yet, but soon, soon, it's bound to happen), then there are no real differences between men and women in terms of things that are material and significant, they're just bodies with an interchangeable set of parts. The actual significant differences are surface ones like the chosen forms of appearance.

It is about trying to change how people think by assuming a medical horror is a run-of-the-mill thing just round the corner. It's Overton Window stuff, not science.

Weirdly, the world of FTM surgery is less gung-ho about the imminent arrival of penis transplants www.phallo.net/penis-transplants.htm

I would have thought that would be a lot more straightforward (ie not straightforward at all, but less obviously batshit given hands etc have been transplanted).

Yep.

Link to article about the Chinese lab study, which shows the current state of the science of male pregancy:

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9696597/amp/Chinese-scientists-force-male-rats-BIRTH.html

This talk of uterine implants for transsexual males is complete fantasy.

Sooo where do we draw the ethical line?
What of those folk who identify as animals? Their fantasies feelings are just as valid.

<removes self from organ donor registry>

Weirdly, the world of FTM surgery is less gung-ho about the imminent arrival of penis transplants www.phallo.net/penis-transplants.htm

It’s like how the technology for two females to have genetic children together has existed since the 90s (in mice, but then the 90s were a long time ago.) But there’s no interest in developing it further, while there is considerable interest in developing ways for two men to have genetic children even though that’s a much, much harder problem.

For goodness sake. The money, time, research expertise that this will take would be far better spent on ... well pretty much any other medical problem. Childhood cancer is chronically underfunded and under researched. I can't believe this is real. I mean I can but I wish it wasn't.

Probably just means starting extra early with hysterectomy surgery and only giving female children cross sex hormones (testosterone) after the recipient male has physical ownership of the prized female organ unadulterated by chemicals.

wow. That’s a depressing thought.

I already have. Some time ago, at the first hint of this crap.

I pray this does not work. If it does growing a baby will be next on the list regardless of possible consequences to the child or person carrying it. Its time to realise sex is important. A male born body cannot carry a baby for a reason ffs