Kathleen Stock article about Jack Monroe

[AnonWeeMouse]

Kathleen Stock writes:

unherd.com/2023/01/jack-monroe-the-acceptable-face-of-poverty/

Monroe responds by blaming these critical points on Kathleen Stocks GC views.

I don't think that's fair. I think Monroe is using that as an excuse to try and avoid criticism.

Her publisher has had to release a statement about the dangerous tips in Monroe's New Book and Trussel Trust are refusing to hand it out over safety fears.

I don't think it's right or fair for Monroe to try and hide behind being Non binary or trans etc. She hasn't claimed those identities for ages has she?

Thanks milvey.

(I used to walk everywhere, too.)

Have just watched this through milvey - it was very interesting, thank you. I agree with you about some of his food choices but I have to admire his ingenuity (and I think he made a wise decision regarding the washed up oysters . . . ).

He struck lucky with the bread, and possibly with his condiment scavenging - I've never thought to check anyone's tray so I don't know how common that is, but there was a huge amount of time, effort and knowledge involved (I wouldn't have known that plant was poisonous, for instance, and to avoid it). And he is a fit, healthy man who has done this for a day and I'm sure he'll be the first to admit that he wouldn't like to do it for a lifetime - many people on benefits are physically/mentally vulnerable, or haven't got the time this involves, or don't live near fast food outlets to cadge from (and if everyone started to do this, the food outlets would very quickly stop it).

He obviously enjoyed his own cooking (not sure I would have except possibly the breakfast) and it certainly looked better than a lot of Monroe's (not a high bar) and tasted OK (I've tried two of her recipes - they were grim!) I wouldn't have had te imagination to do what he did (or the bottle for that matter - when he rinsed the salmon paste into his soup my gorge rose), so I was impressed.

It came in at 1600+ cals (can't remember exactly) which is well below the 2,500 for an average adult male) so would be unsustainable long-term, and I'm not sure how nutritionally balanced it was - only protein was from salmon paste (which I suspect was fins and scales at that price) and the peas - the peas could have pushed it up.

As an exercise it was fascinating - I enjoyed watching it. Thank you for posting. AM off to make our tea now.

<nips to Metrocentre to cadge some free ketchup from discarded trays>

When i was younger (back in the 90s) we had a weigh n save that sold loads of cheap dried goods (breakfast cereal, washing powder, rice, pasta etc) and you bought what you needed after weighing it out yourself. It was cheap.

now I see shops that like to sell “artisan” products eg fancy rices, posh beans in the same manner, at vastly higher prices (and they go bust because folk round here can’t afford it).

i would like to see a return to the weigh n save (but with BYO reusable bags/containers)

I know I've quoted you... But don't quote me on this, i swear I've seen at least one Asda do a self.serve type thing. In my memory somewhere there's an Asda near me that does it..

I'm going to have to Google now.

Apparently they're called 'Refill' stations and I think it was Milton Keynes I saw one.

I don't know why they didn't expand them to more stores.

Body Shop used to do refills at one time, but haven't for ages now.

It would be great if stores did because it would save so much on packaging as well as reducing costs - and people could buy as much/little as needed. For people living alone it must be very disheartening that so much fresh food is packaged in quantities you may never get round to using unless you ate it every day for a week.

It's all very well feeling sorry for jm but she has got carried away by her earlier fame and her subsequent sense of entitlement.if it was JUST left at railing at Jamie Oliver and getting hammered and buying expensive tat then fine, who cares but the fact is people are actively contributing to her funds every day.
Not always people who can comfortably afford it either
Some might only be small sums but it all adds up, plus her tv cooking slots, speaker and media interview fees , magazine articles etc, it all adds up and she should have stopped individuals contributing to her a long time ago.
Her lies is what keeps the money rolling in

corporate.asda.com/newsroom/2021/11/19/asda-opens-refill-store-in-milton-keynes

You're not wrong! There is a Asda in MK that does refills of their own brand products. I think it's a pilot scheme, so hopefully it's successful and rolled out nationwide

D'oh! It says in the article that it's the fourth refill store they've opened. So looks like it is becoming a thing.

Oh she's rewriting history and pretending she meant Swiss Army knife when she wrote about opening cans with knife and hammer.

When it's pointed out Swiss Army knives have tin openers on them, she reckons some don't 🙄

Still doesn't match up with the original wording of the "tip" -
“small sharp knife that you are not particularly attached to, a hammer or mallet, a bit of vigour, some patience and a VERY steady hand”

That's ridiculous. I've got a Swiss Army knife, and a Swiss Army STYLE knife. Both have a can opener.

And a screwdriver is an accident waiting to happen. Why doesn't JM just stop?

JM top tip, if you lose your Swiss army style knife use a tin opener next time you have to guard the Pope.

If she hits a folding pocket knife with a mallet, she's even more of a foolish idiot than I suspected.
It'll just close on you, forcefully, that'll be a nice deep cut at the very least and a lost finger tip is certainly possible I reckon.

😂

Don't have a stepladder to get to your attic? Take one dining room chair, smash two of its legs off with a sledgehammer (or pickaxe if you don't have one) and fashion yourself a ladder from its back and remaining legs.

Pretty sure she's simply changed the story because she thinks it sounds better now, despite defending the simple knife/hammer tip originally.

It's so ridiculous - it's a rare circumstance indeed where breaking your Swiss Army knife or breaking a kitchen knife to get at the contents of one tin of food can be considered the economical thing to do.

Or....set fire to the house then borrow the fire brigade's ladder when they show up.

😂

That truffle-steeped caviare that is the only tin in the house when you are in alone with sick child, you haven't even got so much as a slice of bread and haven't eaten since breakfast, and you are such a tw*t that none of you neighbours will open the door to you so you can't borrow a tin opener . . .

And of course, there is no other knife in the house that you don't much care for - you are fond of the others but you've never liked that Swiss Army-type knife, have you? The way it lies there in the drawer looking smugly neutral . . . sneering . . . thinking it will have an easy life, only being used for cheese with holes in, and Toblerone . . . well, is THAT knife going to get a shock! Oooh, yes.

😂

Toblerone is bloody hard - it could actually defeat a folding pocket knife?

I’m feeling a new JM themed version of Rock, Paper, Scissors coming on…

Folding pocket-type knife . . . 😉

But, yes . . . that needs updating.

Tin, knife-and-mallet, phone-for-Dominos, perhaps?

She just lies about everything.

She’s been going on recently that she can’t get upstairs because of arthritis, but is now talking about taking her son wild camping in Scotland. It’s nonsense. She says something, forgets, says something else.

Billy Bullshitter.

She certainly makes a unique case study.

I do find the compulsive lying aspect fascinating. She's not stupid so she must know everyone can see she's lying yet she continues lie after lie.

This pretty much sums her up: https://www.healthline.com/health/pathological-liar

I think she's angling for someone to offer her the use of their holiday cottage.

I think that too, however she’s never seen any interest in taking her child on her many trips before…