Census releases data on gender identity

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This is from the 2021 census:

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/genderidentity/bulletins/genderidentityenglandandwales/census2021

Only 0.5% of people identify as a different gender/sex from the one they were born with.

It is all so ridiculous. need to remind myself of the questions. I believe there was no 'none' like religion so I may have entered something in the box like I do not have a gender identity.

Unsurprisingly Pink News use the statistic of people refusing to answer the questions as evidence of people not being able to be open about their "true authentic selves". That is complete nonsense. People refused to answer because they know the political motivation behind such questions.

Ozanne is going to be on Channel 4 news tonight, along with Stonewall apparently.

I wonder if anyone will make the point that the genderwoo numbers are so small they should be called genderwee?

The numbers do not support the amount of bending over backwards our institutions are doing, to accommodate the purported population.

You know what numbers would? HALF. Half the population. Who, along with children, are being thrown under the bus. In healthcare, in RSE lessons, in reliable crime statistics to inform police work, in the criminal justice system, in prisons, in every walk of life. Not to mention disabled people battling with mad pedestrian crossings or the fact they still have to reveal difficult aspects of their lives so that benefits can be properly calculated.

Why the actual fuck aren't THOSE people being accommodated?? Boring old women, uninteresting children and people with disabilities. Forget them. Too boring / like hard work.

So cross about this stuff now.

Was there a question about disability in the census?
Spending more time in phse or in EDI initiatives at work talking about that would be more useful

Oxford, quite high. They had the Oxford Trans Toolkit.

I think these stats could be really useful in pushing back.

For example a building with 10 toilets only needs 1 Unisex for the 0.5% and 5 toilets for females and 4 toilets for Males. Very hard to say all need to be Unisex when 93.5% of the population say they identify as their birth sex.

Again with language, pregnant people vs pregnant women, transmen and non-binary (OFAB). When 93.5% identify as pregnant women.

Ah yes, the Oxfordshire Trans Toolkit.

Signed off by Lucy Butler who soon after ran away to another Local Authority

Written, apparently, by Sidonie Bertrand Sheldon of Stonewall who has now gone to Just Like Us

And all this thanks to the bravery of a mum, a teacher and a 13 year old girl. And Safe Schools Alliance, and a lot of gardening.

This is my biggest issue with all this; we should be inclusive, everyone should be able to live their life as they wish, within the bounds of what's legal. However, there are so many other groups that need support, awareness and understanding, that do not get anywhere near the level of flag waving, public declarations of support, and particularly policy time as the TQI+ etc etc etc...

Still Tish on the ONS, and other Whitehall departments

gendercriticalwoman.blog/2022/05/12/alison-pritchard-tra-behind-the-scenes-part-two-geo/

Offending rates. According to this, twitter.com/mar2vickers/status/1611327056557608968?s=20&t=fStuZF0-y9N6_HIWaf7IdQ

Trans women are 5 times more likely to be convicted serious sex offender than the male average. 350 times more likely than women.

However, there are so many other groups that need support, awareness and understanding, that do not get anywhere near the level of flag waving, public declarations of support, and particularly policy time as the TQI+ etc etc etc...

I don’t understand how a very small group of people that have forced changes in language, national policies, have hundreds of companies paying huge amounts of money to get awards, and get a whole month of very high profile (rainbow) flag waving, can still claim to be one of the most marginalised and discriminated against groups in society.
But if you can believe humans can change sex you can believe anything. 🙄

Indeed @MagpiePi - anything is possible... 🫣🤨

Interesting information. Thanks for posting.

Yes, my first bit of activism helping Safe School Alliance with gardening and research.

That's a huge number for me. Whew. Quite an epidemic of dysphoria. If this has always existed and causes young people to self harm if not validated, we should have seen a massive reduction in self harm in recent years.

The ticked the box but didn't write in a gender identity - noting that the accompanying information says if you wrote in something that they deemed to be not answering the question they treated it as not answered - may be a combination of
I'm trans so tick the box, but I lied and said I was a woman in the sex question so better not give away my sex now.
People writing in "what's all this bollox about" or equivalent.
Probably weighted towards the latter.

People writing in "what's all this bollox about" or equivalent. Probably weighted towards the latter.

It has to be.

In no normal survey is "didn't give a specific answer" the biggest category. People usually answer questions. But in this one, it's biggest, greater than "trans woman" and "trans man" combined.

If you look at the top level question, you see 94% "same" versus 6% "unanswered" - that's a more normal ratio.

As is the 0.26% "tm/tw/nb" total versus 0.04% "other" inside the "different".

But you also have 0.24% "no specific answer" with the next largest answers being 0.10% - "no specific answer" is nearly half the total.

There will be some genuine blanks or weird answers there from those who genuinely see themselves as "trans", but the vast majority are almost certainly from the "what's this bollox" crowd - the only way to get such a weird-looking distribution is by a much larger external group messing it up.

It's kind of the same effect you see in "women's" crimes - the pool of male offenders is so much larger than female, that even a small percentage of male offenders being counted as female seriously distort the stats.

Here the pool of non-trans people who might say "what's this bollox" is huge, and creates that 0.24% "no specific identity given" bar.

Someone really needs to press them on this. Is over a third of their "trans" count really "bollox"? My estimate is that the 0.24% will be >0.20% "bollox" to get the non-bollox responses down to a smaller number than the 0.04% "other".

Although what would non-bollox responses be? Just being blank, I guess? I suppose a lot of people could have rather more neutrally put "none" or "n/a", which is ambiguous - could it could either be an "agender" genderologist or a gender-free GC person. It would presumably skew greatly to the latter, given the population, and the fact that the "agender" would presumably write "agender", as they like having labels. "None" is more our style.

So let's have a breakdown:

1. blank
2. ambiguous agender/gender-free "none" type responses
3. what's this bollox responses

Speccie:

www.spectator.co.uk/article/did-stonewall-invent-300000-non-existent-trans-people/

"According to Stonewall, ‘the best estimate at the moment is that around 1 per cent of the population might identify as trans, including people who identify as non-binary. That would mean about 600,000 trans and non-binary people in Britain, out of a population of over 60 million.’
(Actually, based on today’s population, it would be closer to 700,000.)
That estimate of 600,000 trans people comes from a Stonewall document amusingly entitled ‘The Truth About Trans’. Now that the census has shown that the truth is that Stonewall has been overstating the number of trans people in the UK by at least 100 per cent, will the campaigners correct the record?"

My guess is no

So let's have a breakdown:

1) blank
2) ambiguous agender/gender-free "none" type responses
3) what's this bollox responses

Also comedy responses.

There has always been a desire to over estimate numbers of LGBT. There has always been this common statistic of 1 in 10 being gay, whereas the census is coming in at about 3%. Twice as many people think the question shouldn't be asked.

This is why the idea of "queer" has come about and being inclusive to define a heterosexual person who seeks a romantic relationship before sexual activity as a "queer person" to inflate the figures. It is why recent surveys of teenagers are showing 40%+ identifying as LGBTQ+.

The same goes for moving transsexual into transgender. So that you encompass heterosexual male cross-dressers etc into the figures.

I thought it was 10%, too, Reunited! Interesting to see how low that figure is.

Woah! Those offending stats!!

That’s pretty eye-watering!

And especially when you consider the numbers of people, from TW to MPs and MSPs to teenagers who’ve been marinating in the whole ideology on social media, who are extremely invested in telling us that there are no essential differences between men and women, and single-sex spaces are “segregation” akin to apartheid.

It might start to look like that vested interest has a specific set of reasons behind it that are not at all benign.

5 times more likely than the average man but then another breakdown using more recent numbers found 7 times more likely than the average man. So no gatekeeping, self id is increasing the number of men who identify as women and are sex offenders. We have been saying this will happen for how many years??? This is good for those identifying as trans how? We have increasing evidence that this particular group of men are a much greater danger to women and children than the average man and wasn’t this known already years ago, it was one of those social norms which kept us a bit safer.

The age data for gender ID is released on 25 Jan so that should be interesting.