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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

[American] Prisons again…

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NitroNine · 05/01/2023 13:41

Specifically, a trans woman who murdered their parents (& the family dog) having been moved from a maximum security prison to medium security - specifically, the women’s section of the prison.

One of the things that stands out, being used to the British judiciary making quite remarkable sentencing decisions because TW won’t like prison (it’s great craic for everyone else, of course 🤨) is that when it came to sentencing the judge didn’t consider the fact this offender is trans to be a mitigating factor.

Reduxx have covered it - somehow Maine’s legislature have taken a couple of centuries to decide incarcerated women deserve to have guaranteed access to a range menstrual hygiene products as & when required; but Bill LD1044 has been rushed along through so incarcerated males like this murderer who [decide to] claim they feel they are in fact women, not men, can be moved into women’s prisons.

The ACLU support this absolute travesty, despite knowing women in prison are frequently survivors of abuse: one study found 92% of all women in California prisons had been “battered and abused” in their lifetimes. Pregnant women have a dreadful time in prison - they’re still having to give birth in shackles despite increasing restrictions on it.

Human Rights Watch produced a report in 1996 titled ALL TOO FAMILIAR
Sexual Abuse of Women in U.S. State Prisons - things have improved somewhat since then, but now they’re locking women up with rapists & murderers because said males say they’re women everything is reversing at the most astonishing rate.

Interesting to compare & contrast the problems women face in prison vs those faced by TW. Zero justification for putting TW into women’s facilities, but rather a desperate need to focus on women & their needs. I know, I’m sure we’re all shocked. 🤦‍♀️

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Delphinium20 · 05/01/2023 19:13

This makes me sick. The older brother even warns the court how twisted and remorseless this criminal is. The criminal is a very hulking male, too. The poor women subjected to his presence must be terrified.

As we've learned, there have been many sexual assaults and rapes of women by male prison guards and one proposed solution is to only hire female guards for women's prisons (I agree with this) but I can't see how any female guard could feel safe around this monster!

NitroNine · 07/01/2023 05:16

I don’t know if they use consistently-held gender identity to [try to] prevent prisoners suddenly discovering they are in fact the womanliest women that ever womaned 5 minutes after their incarceration; but if that’s the idea we all know it’ll never be allowed 🤷‍♀️

As ever, it’s all about the person with the consistently-held gender identity. Absolutely no recognition of the fact that the incarcerated women & female staff also have needs & should also have rights & their safety be paramount.

Housing placements and search practices must be consistent with the person's consistently held gender identity except when such placement or search would present significant management or security problems to the correctional or detention facility or threaten the health and safety of the person.

I mean, they prevent trans men from being housed in male prisons with that part of the Bill - but somehow the health & safety of the female prisoners males are being wished onto is not a consideration. If it were, there would be no question of allowing males to be housed with them - and perhaps especially not violent males like the individual in this case/with a history of DV/with a history of committing sexual assault.

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nepeta · 08/01/2023 19:51

This also changes the nature of what a prison sentence means to a woman. Cruel and unusual punishment has a meaning in the American legal canon, and I wonder if that could be used to fight against this?

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