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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Japan: self-declared “pervert” self-IDs into women’s sauna

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NitroNine · 05/01/2023 05:37

For once it’s not simply a case of what we all think on reading about a male individual entering a sex-segregated space where women are in a state of undress [& then writing about the breasts of the women there]. No, when criticised for having done this, they seemed to think saying they’re “a pervert” was some kind of reasonable explanation.

The Reduxx article also covers changes to Japan’s universities: women don’t want women’s universities to start accepting TW? Do it anyway AND RE-EDUCATE THE BIGOTS! (Anyone who mentions the massive scandal about women being kept out of Japan’s top universities via grade manipulation is obviously the absolute biggest bigot in the world; EXTRA re-education for them!)

Women in Japan endure so much as it is - it’s grotesque that male people are trampling boundaries like this. And they’re lobbying for easier access to spaces where there are naked women self ID - presumably claiming there’s no evidence of it causing issues. Hopefully the women of Japan will be able to demonstrate that absence of evidence is due to a deliberate strategy to ensure no such evidence can be collected; rather than because of a genuine lack of issues.

(Phrase “self-ID” used in title because, while you are able to change sex marker on documents in Japan; sex-segregated spaces are considered to be off-limits to those of the opposite sex even if they’ve changed their ID documents. In Japan, TW are very much not W.)

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Rightsraptor · 05/01/2023 22:58

I haven't been to Japan. It had always been on my list but now, along with other countries, I am having a big rethink about where to spend my money.

But I popped on to say that I've heard that Japanese homes are often built with no or minimal bathing facilities because there's an assumption that people will use the communal ones. Which need, therefore, to be strictly single sex. But if they aren't, what on earth will Japanese women do?

WomenCantBeBulliedOutOfResistance · 06/01/2023 08:33

This is awful. Coincidentally I was just looking at the Nintendo Switch sale and I saw a game entitled "Hot "Sento Girls" and Love". I have attached a screenshot of the description. WTAF??!

Japan: self-declared “pervert” self-IDs into women’s sauna
Boiledbeetle · 06/01/2023 09:11

Yeah, this is all fine nothing to see here. I mean look he was just a man who is now a woman having a total normal experience in the women's bath house...

“It was really a 360-degree world full of tits and tight, peach-like buttocks,” Wasada said.

“I actually went to peachy boob heaven and worshipped marshmallow tits,” he added. “Everyone hides them with a towel, but they’re protruding, aren’t they? Heaven. There are big peaches and small ones. There are peaches, and there are women whose buttocks stick out like pears.”

Boiledbeetle · 06/01/2023 09:14

“If you’re a woman at heart, don’t you understand that if you say things like this to a woman, it’s scary and disgusting? I’m not discriminatory and I’ve participated in the Pride parade in the past, but when I saw this video, I honestly thought it was really disgusting. LGBT+ just lost its supporters,” read one of the top comments.

Well, at least they've got the measure of him!

Boiledbeetle · 06/01/2023 09:20

But then to read on and see

Sexual harassment, upskirting, and public groping are so prevalent in the nation that advertisements on public transportation can be seen warning passengers to be on alert for sexually-motivated crimes, and most major railways offer some form of specially designated women-only spaces or train cars. In addition, voyeurism pornography has been increasing in popularity in recent years, motivating men to install cameras in women’s spaces of undress in order to film them unaware.

And we thought we had it bad.

Is this shit ever going to end. The women in japan are already so disadvantaged compared to the men. And now the men want the little the women have to themselves.

Selfish. Bloody selfish twats.

NitroNine · 06/01/2023 13:11

@Rightsraptor it’s wretched, isn’t it? I think for elderly women, particularly, males colonising their sentōs would be devastating given the way they function as a community hub not simply a place to perform one’s ablutions. Ugh.

@WomenCantBeBulliedOutOfResistance
Well that’s several layers of WTAF 😵‍💫 Particularly the protagonist having a sister - who apparently has a handy wig collection 🤔 - but them somehow deciding HE is the obvious choice to take over. Because, er, Reasons?

@Boiledbeetle
I like to share when I read about male people having a total normal one in female spaces because my literally broken brain needs the reassurance that other people get the same metaphorical breakage. Also, the more people know about yet another case of a thing that never happens the better, I think? It is a horrendous one though really, even against the backdrop of general awfulness. Japan has an awful lot of cultural issues like the hikikomori & a devastatingly high suicide rate; & it’s a society with an enormous “sex industry” - & accompanying high level of trafficking & exploitation. Possession of images of CSA wasn’t made illegal until 2014 (reported universally as they’re banning “child porn”); the battle to get that legislation extended to depictions in manga is ongoing. This is all with the backdrop of Japan having an abysmal gender equality ranking, combining into a desperately toxic soup that means many men really don’t see women as anything like their equals. (There’s LOADS available to read on gender inequality in Japan if anyone’s interested, I thought I’d stick with something brief that covers the key points though.)

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