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Model response to a dilemma for women in the left-right storm (really?)

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IwantToRetire · 01/01/2023 19:10

So not satisfied with appropriating the work, ideas and campaigning of one woman and many active supporters, some complete set of nobody film makers have taken it upon themselves to school us silly air heads on how to behave and who to talk to.

Leaving aside the smug condescension of believing the have the right to tell us how to behave, this is a perfect example of where complete nobodies who exploit other people to further their own media career, then assume they are as politically relevant and analytically acute as actual activists.

kaygreen.blog/2022/12/31/model-response-to-a-dilemma-for-women-in-the-left-right-storm/

This is the problem with the media at the moment, presenters and film makers who are just the vehicle to get voices and ideas heard, then think they are entitled to become the spokes person.

Apart from anything else, did these nupties even think maybe we should ask those who the film was actually about. I know they would, having been hand selected as the appropriately politically aligned voices, also refused, but even within the unethical world of these self promoters, do they really think they take precedence.

But it does gives us a clear idea of their moral compass and how they felt able to bandwagon of others work and go to extreme lengths to make sure they are never referred to or acknowledged.

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Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 18:46

GrinitchSpinach · 04/01/2023 18:39

I have just proven your earlier accusation was groundless nonsense:

I would ask what my alleged earlier nonsense accusation was, but cousin Germaine is texting me and I need to attend to her.

the reality is that appearing as one of his talking heads puts you in a group with some less than ideal activists who are other than GC, working against womens rights.

Yes, as I said in my previous post, you claim that accepting TC’s platform makes a woman responsible for (“puts you in a group with”) other guests with whom she is not affiliated. I disagree. Many posters here disagree. I think that’s about all that can be said on the topic.

I would ask what my alleged earlier nonsense accusation was. You know what it was because I conveniently quoted it for you right there.

Yes, as I said in my previous post, you claim that accepting TC’s platform makes a woman responsible for (“puts you in a group with”) other guests with whom she is not affiliated.

No, I have made no such claim. Given the above, I don’t think you know what ‘responsible for’ means if you think that being associated with others = you’re responsible for them.

That is a ridiculous accusation to make. I worked on my school PTO, am I now “responsible for” another school mum having an affair and setting up an onlyfans account? Well no, I wouldn’t be. But i would he associated with her as we are on the PTO together.

But of course, that would insult your intelligence, you know that “associated with” doesn’t equal “responsible for” and so you’re going down the route of insult my intelligence and every other poster on here tbf. As we all know those have very different meanings.

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 18:48

Helleofabore · 04/01/2023 18:43

Ok! Excellent. Let’s take her from
the list.

So that is 8 feminists.

Any more to add though? Feminists - discussing the conflicts with the protections for women and girls.

And you know, Riley might have had little other choice in who to support as a candidate. I can imagine that finding a candidate to support that aligns with all your ideals can be very hard at local level. But you do you with you absolutist purity.

She still voted for and worked for a pro-life Senator. She had a choice. We all do. She is pro-life in action.

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 18:49

@Helleofabore
Bit sexist to exclude men from the list of GC activists….one would almost think you were cherry picking. 🍒

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 18:51

Don’t forget KJKs wavering on abortion as well. She’s made some statements along the lines of “setting aside the right to a legal abortion” is worth getting laws passed banning transgender ideology.

ResisterRex · 04/01/2023 18:53

Oh god, I feel that link with all the screenshots and no sources about KJK might be posted soon.

As for cherry picking, Bug you couldn't even be bothered to fact check yours.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/01/2023 18:54

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 18:49

@Helleofabore
Bit sexist to exclude men from the list of GC activists….one would almost think you were cherry picking. 🍒

I googled Jason Whitlock

what makes you think he’s gender critical?

I can’t find any instances of him critiquing gender

I think he’s pretty clear that men can never be women, but those aren’t the same thing fyi

Helleofabore · 04/01/2023 18:54

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 18:49

@Helleofabore
Bit sexist to exclude men from the list of GC activists….one would almost think you were cherry picking. 🍒

No. Not at all.

Women’s voices need to be amplified. This film is the majority women’s voices. Wonderful women’s voices.

I assume the female film maker would go on.

I am pointing out that there doesn’t seem to be any ‘over done’ aspect of this. You want more women’s voices heard, I want more women’s voices heard.

Including male voices is counter productive. Particularly if you have pulled the governor from
the list.

I think any rhetoric saying that Tucker Carlson has been ‘done’ is not really an honest take.

Helleofabore · 04/01/2023 18:55

ResisterRex · 04/01/2023 18:53

Oh god, I feel that link with all the screenshots and no sources about KJK might be posted soon.

As for cherry picking, Bug you couldn't even be bothered to fact check yours.

You mean the sin list? Is it still up?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/01/2023 18:56

Do we need to check terms again?

I’m not convinced @Onnabugeisha understands what gender critical means

(the clue is really in the name)

Helleofabore · 04/01/2023 19:01

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 18:48

She still voted for and worked for a pro-life Senator. She had a choice. We all do. She is pro-life in action.

Yeah. You are attempting to force your own absolutism onto Riley.

Which other candidates did she have a choice to back? Or should she have not voted at all? Was the other candidates that looked like getting in worse?

Do you know, or are you drawing your own scenario here?

Was she herself out there campaigning to ban abortion? Or was she like one of my local campaigners, fully supportive of women rights whereas there candidate was fully up for males in women’s prisons, sports and women’s shelters.

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 19:04

ResisterRex · 04/01/2023 18:53

Oh god, I feel that link with all the screenshots and no sources about KJK might be posted soon.

As for cherry picking, Bug you couldn't even be bothered to fact check yours.

Fact check what of mine?

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 19:06

I think any rhetoric saying that Tucker Carlson has been ‘done’ is not really an honest take.
Lol. It has been done to death by Tucker Carlson and Fox News in general.

Floisme · 04/01/2023 19:07

Fact check what of mine?

I think people are referring to the way you talked down to Grinitch as if she were in the UK. And haven't even acknowledged your mistake.

Helleofabore · 04/01/2023 19:08

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 19:06

I think any rhetoric saying that Tucker Carlson has been ‘done’ is not really an honest take.
Lol. It has been done to death by Tucker Carlson and Fox News in general.

By feminists?

Why are you shutting down opportunities for feminist voices and a feminist perspective getting put across rather than a males or someone else ?

Seriously?

The way to ensure that feminists get the message across is to platform more feminists!

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 04/01/2023 19:09

TC doesn’t allow anyone to express any pro-choice views in his shows.

Misleading statement there. We were talking about women's GC views as a counterpoint to all the other views you mentioned.

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 19:11

Helleofabore · 04/01/2023 19:01

Yeah. You are attempting to force your own absolutism onto Riley.

Which other candidates did she have a choice to back? Or should she have not voted at all? Was the other candidates that looked like getting in worse?

Do you know, or are you drawing your own scenario here?

Was she herself out there campaigning to ban abortion? Or was she like one of my local campaigners, fully supportive of women rights whereas there candidate was fully up for males in women’s prisons, sports and women’s shelters.

She had a choice to vote for another candidate or not vote. She had a choice to not appear in one of his campaign adverts.

I cannot believe you are seriously saying a woman who worked for and voted for a pro-life senator “had no choice”.

I don’t think it’s ‘forcing absolutism’ to point this out. Or do you think that all the women who voted for Trump also ‘had no choice’? You are denying the fact that she had agency and infantilising her.

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 19:14

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 04/01/2023 19:09

TC doesn’t allow anyone to express any pro-choice views in his shows.

Misleading statement there. We were talking about women's GC views as a counterpoint to all the other views you mentioned.

I misunderstood you then, because GC views are not a counterpoint to Tucker Carlsons views. He doesn’t have them on to argue or debate with them, but to be in violent agreement with them.

So I thought you were referring back to my point about how many of the GC activists are pro-life and a few are pro-choice….so you said good they (the pro choice ones) can provide a counterpoint. That’s how I understood your comment,

I did not know that you didn’t know that Tucker Carlson doesn’t debate GC activists, he is always in 100% agreement with them…so GC views are not a counterpoint at all on his shows.

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 19:16

Helleofabore · 04/01/2023 19:08

By feminists?

Why are you shutting down opportunities for feminist voices and a feminist perspective getting put across rather than a males or someone else ?

Seriously?

The way to ensure that feminists get the message across is to platform more feminists!

No it’s not. He doesn’t let his show express feminist views at all other than the GC ones. I’m not shutting down any opportunities, Fox News is carefully curated news.

ResisterRex · 04/01/2023 19:17

Floisme · 04/01/2023 19:07

Fact check what of mine?

I think people are referring to the way you talked down to Grinitch as if she were in the UK. And haven't even acknowledged your mistake.

Yes. And the point about Kara Dansky.

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 19:17

Floisme · 04/01/2023 19:07

Fact check what of mine?

I think people are referring to the way you talked down to Grinitch as if she were in the UK. And haven't even acknowledged your mistake.

Well, she says she is in the US and it doesn’t matter if she really is or isn’t in the US, she was still wrong and I have shown that. 🤷‍♀️

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 19:18

ResisterRex · 04/01/2023 19:17

Yes. And the point about Kara Dansky.

Yeah I forgot KDs nationality. Big whoop.

ResisterRex · 04/01/2023 19:19

It is a "big whoop" as your own lack of basic due diligence undermines the point you were trying to make.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/01/2023 19:19

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 19:17

Well, she says she is in the US and it doesn’t matter if she really is or isn’t in the US, she was still wrong and I have shown that. 🤷‍♀️

'I have shown that'

well case closed then
Grin Grin Grin

(you haven't shown 'that')

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/01/2023 19:20

what about this jason fella?

not GC in the slightest, right? unless you've got some examples of him criticising gender @Onnabugeisha ?

you could prove me wrong too! such fun!

Onnabugeisha · 04/01/2023 19:21

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/01/2023 18:54

I googled Jason Whitlock

what makes you think he’s gender critical?

I can’t find any instances of him critiquing gender

I think he’s pretty clear that men can never be women, but those aren’t the same thing fyi

This is a pretty big indication.
www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-whitlock-woman-ketanji-brown-jackson