Scottish GRR Bill interviews on R4 Today programme

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Just heard this - it started at 7:48:50
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_fourfm

Interview by Nick Robinson, firstly with Karen Adam SNP MSP who is a supporter of the Bill.
Good questioning by NR and lots of waffle from KA

• there is no connection between getting a GRC and medical interventions, so not a problem for 16 year olds to have a GRC
• prison governors should make up their own minds about allowing male prisoners into female prisoners on a case by case basis
• Conclusion - the whole thing is nothing to do with sex offenders or predatory men, it is about allowing trans people to die with dignity in their chosen identity (what?)

Then Rachel Hamilton, Cons MSP who opposes the Bill, who talked about empirical evidence that predatory men will abuse a GRC to gain access to potential victims, the amendment that convicted rapists shouldn't get an GRC that was voted down was because it conflated male attackers with 'normal' trans people.

It is just so unbelievable that this Bill has been passed. A sad day.

One consolation from that interview is that Nick Robinson was wily enough to steer away from lines of questioning that would see things bogged down in Most Oppressed Ever and went in hard over "male sex offenders".

I chose not to listen. I yelled myself raw last night at the telly.

I hate Scotland. It’s bloody embarrassing. I’ll just tell people I’m from Afghanistan now.

These days I'm embarrassed by being Scottish too.

I’m remembering my grandma who spent her final years in a care home.

tiny and frail. She lived through two world wars, nursed in London during the blitz, had a truth awful childhood.. she would have torn any man to shreds if he proclaimed his gender to her.

I'm hoarse from all the singing and shouting yesterday. My overriding feeling leaving the demo was of female solidarity and total incredulity at what was going on in Holyrood. I can't believe what's happening. That image of Nicola Sturgeon sitting at such an awkward angle to keep her back to the public gallery summed it up. I personally thanked councillors, MSPs from Labour, SNP and Conservatives.

And yet a representative of Stonewall had the gall to say on TV that this is just administrative and NOTHING to do with women.

Thanks for the link OP I'll listen to it later.