Kellie-Jay's New Political Party

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I can't see a thread on this, but she is starting a new party and will run in elections.

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Yes, rights are encoded in multiple laws and judgements.

How else do you think women have the right to have and express GC beliefs? Through a tribunal employment court judgement.

Im not sure what your point is really? You say on the one hand she is writing casually and is not in a court of law, now you are seeming to argue that she didn’t mean setting aside all the laws/judgements that give women the legal right to an abortion because she generalised “legal right to an abortion” instead of citing all applicable abortion laws and judgements?

You cannot be serious. That meaning isn’t for setting aside a legal right!

So are you…only that woman is me!

To those just joining us since page 3 yes we are still arguing about abortions and the meaning of set aside.

zzzzzzz

We get it you think KJK is a horrible horrible women.

Most of us on here don't so...

Knock yourself out,keep going it keeps the thread at the top of the list. Yay go @Onnabugeisha you're doing a sterling job

I don’t think it would have legal meaning

I found a use of "setting aside the right" meaning "reserving the right", ie the complete opposite, but I'm sure Onna doesn't to interpret it that legal way.

Otherwise there's lots of "set aside the right to attach order" (parsed as setting aside the right-to-attach order). Can't find anything else Googling around.

"Setting aside a right" in the same way as you'd set aside an "order" or "judgment" doesn't make sense. A right is not a concrete legal entity - it's abstract.

That meaning isn’t for setting aside a legal right!

Please, enlighten us - show us an example of this in a real-life legal context.

I'm apparently rubbish at Google and can't manage to find one.

Because she used it in a legal context.
setting aside even the legal right to an abortion

I also use set aside in conversation as in ‘setting that aside for the moment, let’s focus on….”

I don't care

Im not sure what your point is really?

My point is that you are arguing you have to interpret it the way you say because "set aside" is legal terminology.

I'm pointing out "setting aside a right" is not legal terminology, so considering the wider context (4 words rather than 2), your assertion is clearly wrong.

This is not very hard.

Your move is now to counter me by showing the use of "setting aside a right" in a legal context (beyond the "reserving a right" I managed to find.)

It’s not a legal context

There is no legal meaning to the set of words

I think you’ve honed in on a statement and run with it

No, I did not say those things. You’re just fabricating things. Which is toxic and just shows how much you hate women who don’t worship KJK. Pretty petty.

Im focussed on those comments because now she has said she will stand for election. This means she may have far more political power than any of us ever will.

Men already determine womens rights. Haven’t you noticed they have more than half the votes of every law making body on the planet? Don’t be ridiculous. Abortion bans isn’t what TRAs are campaigning for.

But the ADF who funds the WoLF of which KJK ARE campaigning for abortion bans both in the US and the U.K.

Shes not only said dubious things, she is linked to those who are virulently pro-life.

Damn, part of my sentence was deleted.
But the ADF who funds the WoLF of which KJK is a special advisor ARE campaigning for abortion bans both in the US and the U.K. that should read.

To clarify as people seem eager to misunderstand..ADF is pro-life and a hate group. WoLF has been funded by them and is quite literally a front for their female activists.

Yes it is a legal context, it’s not setting aside time or money or soup. It’s setting aside a LEGAL right ergo it’s being used in a legal context, not time context or a money context or a soup context.

@Onnabugeisha how do you know the context in which it was being used? Do you know what you could do if you’re soooooo worried about KJK getting into politics? You could set up your own party and campaign for womens rights your way. Wouldn’t that be way more useful to your cause than whinging on here? Everyone could then see exactly what kind of ‘feminist’ you are.

setting aside a LEGAL right ergo it’s being used in a legal context

Hello? Anyone in? In a legal context, you specifically do not see rights being set aside, other than in the sense of "reserved". Your reading is nonsensical in a legal context.

ADF who funds the WoLF

Would it be worth spending some of the remaining time on the thread to dig into this one? What's the actual truth behind it? Seeing as we can't get anywhere on the alleged screenshot...

you do realise that if the gender ideologists get their way, abortions will probably be banned anyway right? I mean, if you say men can have abortions, as the gender ideologists claim, that means they get a say in abortion rights. So men will determine womens rights to abortions
Men already do have a bloody say in abortion rights!!!
What, you think by supporting trans rights, acknowledging trans women as women, trans men as men, that means abortion might be banned?!
They can already be under threat and nothing to do with trans people.
Nonsensical to willingly risk them (as in the right to abortion) because trans women are seen as women, they'll be under threat regardless.

? What’s with the Spanish Inquisition. You never ask for eye witness first hand knowledge on any other thread? Do you ask the BBC reporters the same questions? Did you see the stabbing? Or did anyone you know see the stabbing? Is this just third hand reporting then BBC reporter?

I believe its her comment. She wrote it. You can decide if you think some random hacker has done a fake comment or you can just take her words at face value. Given that it jives with stuff she has said on camera, I’m inclined to think it’s not the work of a masked hacker creating fake digital posts.

No it’s really a misunderstanding here and seems to be driving a lot of your posts

Theres no precedent for this phrase

If you were to try and use it in a legal context others wouldn’t understand you as it’s not correct terminology

Necessary has shown ways it has been used

It’s fine, it happens, it’s ok to accept it

I believe its her comment. She wrote it. You can decide if you think some random hacker has done a fake comment or you can just take her words at face value. Given that it jives with stuff she has said on camera, I’m inclined to think it’s not the work of a masked hacker creating fake digital posts.

Yep, reminds me a bit of Trump and his complaints of "fake news!" at anything he doesn't like/want to hear 😁
Unless it's something from a person you don't agree with as much and then it's suddenly gospel and could never possibly be untrue

Given that it jives with stuff she has said on camera, I’m inclined to think it’s not the work of a masked hacker creating fake digital posts.

I'm currently inclined to think it's real - it is indeed something I can imagine her saying. And if it was made up, they wouldn't have made up something that needed to be cropped.

But I see no evidence it originates on that thread, or even a suggestion that it does. You're saying it, but I don't know why you're saying it. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it.

For some reason I don't trust you as much as a BBC reporter. What can I say - maybe it's just one of my character flaws.

Your reading is nonsensical in a legal context.

Oh, yes the setting aside meaning in terms of setting aside soup to eat later makes so much more sense when talking about setting aside the legal right to an abortion than using the legal meaning of setting aside. Honestly I am at a loss for words.

ADF and WoLF financial ties- Already posted links to that.

Has Onnabugeisha gone and set up her political party yet? She has so much energy and enthusiasm! I'm sure she is going to push women's rights so far to the forefront of the political agenda that we'll all very quickly forgot KJK and all her "clandestine" associations and, HUZZAH, feminism will be out of danger and all proper and nice again. HUZZAH!

Are the left wing male overlords going to allow it?
Or will they keep holding the "you will lose your abortion rights if you even speak to the smelly right wingers" sword of damocles over women's heads. Maybe if we're really nice to them and make them tea and sandwiches at their revolutionary meetings, they'll let us say a few words, eh?

Oh, yes the setting aside meaning in terms of setting aside soup to eat later makes so much more sense when talking about setting aside the legal right to an abortion than using the legal meaning of setting aside.
Exactly, I mean WTF