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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A charity event to push for an end to male violence against women and girls has banned discussion about single sex spaces

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IwantToRetire · 29/11/2022 18:01

Nicola Sturgeon, the first minister, is scheduled to give the main speech to the 30th anniversary gathering by Zero Tolerance in Edinburgh today. The charity‘s core belief is that male violence should not be tolerated.

A note sent to attendees said it wanted “to create a safe and supported environment for our guests and ask you to support us in this aim by refraining from discussions of the definition of a woman, and single sex spaces, in relation to the gender recognition act”.

It added: “As feminists we have strong opinions on these subjects, but this is not the place for that conversation.”

According to the event page, it has been organised “for those who are committed to ending men’s violence against women and girls but particularly for senior managers in government and national public bodies, elected representatives, local authority officials, civil servants, and senior managers and policy officers working in the third sector”.

Full article at www.thetimes.co.uk/article/zero-tolerance-event-bans-talk-of-single-sex-spaces-m8jflc082

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Onnabugeisha · 29/11/2022 18:03

Good. They need to say that so we can all come together and take a stand on one issue without a separate issue dividing and conquering us.

Happylittlechicken · 29/11/2022 18:07

So we can talk about MVAWG but not the fact this violence means traumatised women need single sex spaces away from males. And we can’t define who exactly we’re going to be talking about because that might upset some males. Once again women are silenced to placate males. Awesome.

bellinisurge · 29/11/2022 18:13

If this is not the place for this conversation then this place isn't fit for purpose

UrsulaPandress · 29/11/2022 18:15

Are you having a laugh @Onnabugeisha ?

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 29/11/2022 18:25

Onnabugeisha · 29/11/2022 18:03

Good. They need to say that so we can all come together and take a stand on one issue without a separate issue dividing and conquering us.

Wait? Are you saying only some aspects of VAWG should be discussed and that other ls should just shut the fuck up and sit down?

Crikey. How did you draw up the criteria for excluding some women from your list of worthiness?

JanieAllen · 29/11/2022 18:53

ZT has been promoting men for some years now

twitter.com/ForWomenScot/status/1597516364818034691

YankeeDad · 29/11/2022 19:04

When any male, regardless of self-identification, demands to be accepted into female-only safe spaces or roles, then that demand is a form of violence against women and girls.

So at the charity event to end violence against women and girls, it is forbidden to mention certain forms of violence against women and girls.

That makes sense.

Not!

IwantToRetire · 29/11/2022 19:07

Nothing of course to do with the fact that Zero Tolerance are the go to group for the Scottish Government when wanting grassroots confirmation of what they want to do.

“Shame on you, Nicola Sturgeon” #womenwontwheesht #letwomenspeak
twitter.com/oceanbreathcafe/status/1597652609250119681?s=46&t=2iR2GZ0276MtK-az-ZtcDA&

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IwantToRetire · 29/11/2022 19:09

oops - left out the sentence:

Funding shouldn't come with strings to take sides in party politics.

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Piffpaffpoff · 29/11/2022 19:11

The woman in that video is amazing. “I see you!”

IwantToRetire · 29/11/2022 19:11

I wonder is the UK Government also laid out guidelines for discussions at this international conference about violence against women which no one seems to know about.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/international-ministerial-conference-on-preventing-sexual-violence-in-conflict-initiative-2022-overview

www.gov.uk/government/publications/preventing-sexual-violence-in-conflict-initiative-psvi-conference-2022-programme/psvi-conference-2022-programme

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Toseland · 29/11/2022 19:37

Was Mr Edinburgh Rape Crisis there? I'm sure i saw a photo.

HopRockers · 29/11/2022 22:52

Toseland · 29/11/2022 19:37

Was Mr Edinburgh Rape Crisis there? I'm sure i saw a photo.

Yes

mobile.twitter.com/VerdiMurray/status/1597616001621057536

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