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Emily Bridges Documentary - ITV Wales Tuesday 29th November

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Dreikanter · 28/11/2022 06:34

Looks like it may only be getting aired in Wales?

road.cc/content/news/emily-bridges-documentary-itv-next-week-297655

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MrsJamin · 28/11/2022 07:29

Well that looks like a balanced piece of journalism 🙄 - it'll probably be on itv player afterwards.

waterwitch · 28/11/2022 07:34

Strange how participation could be ‘leaked to the press’. I would have assumed that information should be publicly available anyway. The general public wouldn’t like the participation of a male trans athlete in a female category - I wonder why that would be?!

BellaAmorosa · 28/11/2022 07:47

It may not be a balanced article but the facts it relates speak for themselves.The self-centredness of Bridges and Sandy jump out at the reader.
I have a feeling this documentary, even though sympathetic, will peak many. Because it will be obvious that Bridges is male and has male performance advantage.

Dreikanter · 28/11/2022 07:51

waterwitch · 28/11/2022 07:34

Strange how participation could be ‘leaked to the press’. I would have assumed that information should be publicly available anyway. The general public wouldn’t like the participation of a male trans athlete in a female category - I wonder why that would be?!

Males taking part in the female category was not popular back in June 2020 according to this YouGov poll.

I can’t see that this programme will make anyone think that opening up women’s sport to males is a good idea.

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Clymene · 28/11/2022 07:53

Well at least in a documentary Bridges can't be photoshopped into a different person

SallyLockheart · 28/11/2022 07:57

Clymene · 28/11/2022 07:53

Well at least in a documentary Bridges can't be photoshopped into a different person

I was thinking exactly the same. Not quite the polished photoshopped girly look

piedbeauty · 28/11/2022 08:06

At least the article mentioned the fact that Bridges won the male uni team race right before they said they wanted to compete against women!!

Could be an interesting watch. Bridges and Sandy are completely self-absorbed. Can't see anyone else's POV.

Helleofabore · 28/11/2022 08:15

It will be a blast of sunshine !

I remember listening to a friend talk about the doco about a transitioned female (either Freddy or Jake) and making a surprising statement about the appalling self centeredness and selfishness that was clear in the doco.

If you give people time to talk, even a supposedly biasedly presented documentary does wonders to people who are not programmed to only support the falsehood.

Dreikanter · 28/11/2022 08:19

Shame it clashes with the England v Wales World Cup match.

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Helleofabore · 28/11/2022 08:19

Bridge’s mum was entertaining when she was on here. Before the ‘flounce’….

waterwitch · 28/11/2022 08:39

That’s interesting information Dreikanter, where’s it from? I wonder if it’s been updated recently? The few TRA’s I’ve directly encountered are all adamant that GC views are only held by a tiny minority of people. Useful to have some actual data

MrsJamin · 28/11/2022 08:43

It's more sunshine isn't it? I hope they show EB standing next to the women - that visual difference and comparison is the most powerful evidence to get people to realise what is happening. I still think that most people will read that article and not understand that this is a biological man trying to compete against women.

Dreikanter · 28/11/2022 09:00

waterwitch · 28/11/2022 08:39

That’s interesting information Dreikanter, where’s it from? I wonder if it’s been updated recently? The few TRA’s I’ve directly encountered are all adamant that GC views are only held by a tiny minority of people. Useful to have some actual data

YouGov survey from June 2020 - I find that a useful graphic.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/07/16/where-does-british-public-stand-transgender-rights

As mentioned previously, sports is the only area where attitudes have noticeably changed since the 2018 study. The proportion of people opposed to transgender women taking part in women’s sports rising by seven points, as well as a five-point increase when it comes to transgender men.

Every single social group is now as or less likely than they were in late 2018 to back transgender access to gendered sporting contests. This is especially the case when it comes to transgender women.

There is also a 2022 survey:

yougov.co.uk/topics/society/articles-reports/2022/07/20/where-does-british-public-stand-transgender-rights

Access to sport: Britons oppose transgender athletes taking part in sporting events for their new gender

There has been a recent spate of sporting bodies imposing bans on trans athletes competing under their new gender, including British Triathlon, the international swimming body Fina, and International Rugby League in the last month alone.

The trans sport debate has focussed primarily on the ability for transgender women to compete, with opponents arguing they have an inherent physiological advantage even after transition.

The public are strongly opposed to trans women athletes participating in women’s sporting events, by 61% versus just 16% who are supportive.

It is not clear, however, how much of this is represents acceptance of the argument that trans women athletes have an unfair advantage, because Britons also tend to be opposed to transgender men competing in men’s events. Such opposition is lower, however, at 48%, with 29% in favour.

So 61% of people are now against transwomen in women’s sport.

Lia Thomas and Emily Bridges have done sterling work.

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Dreikanter · 28/11/2022 09:09

The 2022 data tables:

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waterwitch · 28/11/2022 09:15

@Dreikanter 💐 thankyou

Boiledbeetle · 28/11/2022 09:22

The thing with transwomen in sport is it makes a mockery of the just be kind narrative.

When people look at a race or a podium that is supposedly for women and one, or two, of the people in the race, or on the podium obviously aren't the same type of female as everyone else in the race it causes those that have just assumed this is being nice to a few poor souls who wish to wear "female" clothing to go hang on a minute...that's not right.

ControversialOpening · 28/11/2022 10:18

I wish Nicole Cooke was still competing. If Bridges was in the same race as her Cooke would certainly have something to say about it. Loudly and clearly.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/11/2022 10:22

The few TRA’s I’ve directly encountered are all adamant that GC views are only held by a tiny minority of people.

Question everything these people say, because telling the truth isn't one of their strong points.

FusilliFettler · 29/11/2022 08:50

leaked to the press

All the information was available in the British Cycling website before the press got hold of it. But that doesn’t suit the narrative.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 29/11/2022 09:18

SallyLockheart · 28/11/2022 07:57

I was thinking exactly the same. Not quite the polished photoshopped girly look

Some one on here used that photo as a gotcha the other day

i found it funny

FemaleAndLearning · 29/11/2022 09:20

FusilliFettler · 29/11/2022 08:50

leaked to the press

All the information was available in the British Cycling website before the press got hold of it. But that doesn’t suit the narrative.

Yes and Bridges was listed as male in the female race.

FusilliFettler · 29/11/2022 09:21

Exactly. It’s hardly a conspiracy. Everyone who holds a race licence with BC has all their info publicly available

FemaleAndLearning · 29/11/2022 09:22

Photoshopping is epic

Emily Bridges Documentary - ITV Wales Tuesday 29th November
Emily Bridges Documentary - ITV Wales Tuesday 29th November
Helleofabore · 29/11/2022 09:25

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 29/11/2022 09:18

Some one on here used that photo as a gotcha the other day

i found it funny

They did!

They honestly thought that a photoshopped and carefully posed image was an example of real life!

I think it is was porn mouth open expression that hides a male chin that obviously bamboozled them.

FemaleAndLearning · 29/11/2022 09:29

The listing for the Derby Arena April 2022

Emily Bridges Documentary - ITV Wales Tuesday 29th November
Emily Bridges Documentary - ITV Wales Tuesday 29th November