Mass Shooter in Colorado identifies as non-binary

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Anderson Aldrich, the evil male who shot up a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs and killed 5 people in a horrific act is according to their lawyers non-binary.

"Anderson Aldrich is non-binary. They use they/them pronouns, and for the purposes of all formal filings, will be addressed as Mx. Aldrich,"

www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-springs-lgbtq-club-shooting-suspect-identifying-non-binary-court-documents/

We still don't know much about Aldrich's motivations yet. It could be he is a male predator with mental issues who has used non binary pronouns to get closer to victims for a while like Ezra Miller. Alternatively it could be he was alienated from society and being non-binary was part of a mental escape. Perhaps he was angry at his family and society and decided to go on a killing spree a common motivation in in the States where guns are so accessible.

Alternatively we could be looking at a male right wing fanatic who sees gay culture as evil and a joke and is suddenly identifying as non-binary so he can justify killing people and is trying to create an ideological defence.

What we do know about him is he has a history of violence and bomb threats against his family. His family life was chaotic with a porn star father and mother dealing with drug abuse & alcoholism, and he was bullied at school. So this could fit either option turning to the escapism of genderism or turning to the right:
edition.cnn.com/2022/11/22/us/colorado-suspect-background-aldrich-invs/index.html

A lot of this fits the profile of the average mass shooter - an isolated young male, with power fantasies, and love of guns. Why they claim to kill people - religion, incelism, politics, insecurity, desire for fame, being bullied - ultimately doesn't matter that much.

It doesn't matter how men identify themselves or what excuses they use to justify violence. The point is male violence is part of life, especially while young, we can minimise it, but it we have to recognise it as the threat it is as a society and prioritise safety first and that SEX Matters. Decent men know this and will help us do that.

Initially after the killing lots of people online were blaming American and British feminists and right wing Republicans for the killing because they have both are critical of drag queen acts for kids, defending women's sports, and are against medical experimentation on kids. Anderson identifying as non-binary shows absurd that is. Yes Republicans who idolize male gun culture and violence do have responsibility of course. They have responsibility for all the 20-30,000 killings in the USA every year - not just this one. Women who are trying to stop all violence do not - it is absurd to think they do.

Whatever Aldrich motivations his evil act demonstrates how male violence works. People were fine with self id when it was about raping and murdering women - now when a gay club is shot up by someone non-binary will people take safeguarding seriously? Perhaps being non binary means he will be jailed in a women's prison - how messed up will that be. Or perhaps he will claim he was being bullied and transphobia turned him into a killer and try to get a sentence reduction.

This case is probably going to be massive.

@IcakethereforeIam

Roughly speaking "truscum" are trans people who think you need gender dysphoria to be trans - they are normally against self ID.

"Tucutes" is the truscum word for people who believe anyone can be trans and in the whole xenogender/1000 gender stuff. I imagine it's taken from those cute little anime pictures they all use.

Transmed I assume is the word for people who generally think you should take some medical steps in order to be classed as trans.

Does anyone seriously think that the shooter was non-binary?

Apparently the definition of non-binary is that someone doesn’t identify as man or a woman? Clearly this is an identity that only exists in a person’s head. Why shouldn’t this person fit into such a category? And if you believe in non-binary as a concept why would it be relevant what anyone else thinks?

Looking at how things work in gender identity ideology, a person is non-binary if they identify in their mind as being non-binary. The way for others to learn that someone is non-binary is to be told that they identify in this way.

That's it. According to the ideology it is not possible to consider someone's gender identity as being other than what they claim it to be. We've had this hammered home by trans activists all over social media for years.

Also, it is transphobic in the extreme to ask what anyone means by "non-binary". There have been countless threads on MN asking this and the response is always that because it's someone's personal feeling, it is just not done to ask any questions. Because, in effect, this is questioning their existence.

@HPFA thank you.

Yes this is very obvious really.

There is nothing inherently "left wing" about gender ID. It is individualistic and reifies the same gender norms that religious conservatives believe in.

It is extremely capitalist, taking "pink for girls, blue for boys = sells more products" to the extreme. It capitalises on and medicalises difference, rather than seeking to change the root causes and inequalities at a societal level.

It has gained in popularity using old boys network style hush hush lobbying, benefiting from male supporters with political and financial influence. Grass roots it ain't.

Gender ideology is also misogynist and homophobic. Two traits which I really hoped were not "left wing" but these days I just don't know.

Lol at a person not looking feminine enough to be NB, when "gender affirming care" for NB girls in the US includes mastectomies.

What does presenting as 'female' have to do with being 'non-binary'?

I know that gender is a sexist cultural construct, not an innate personal quality, so I know the shooter isn't non-binary because I know no-one is non-binary. However, the kind of people who have been harassing and threatening and cancelling anyone who questions gender identity are utter hypocrites if they do not accept the shooter's self-declared non-binary status. If he'd targeted women in a shop or gym (as has happened in the US and Canada) then no-one would dare go on CNN and question his identity or motivation.

As for him not looking feminine, that has nothing to do with identity. Anyone gender-critical who points out a trans-identified person does not physically pass as their fantasy identity is told they are mean and cruel and right-wing, and then they are sent rape and death threats. No way should the TRA-lobby be able to claim that this man doesn't pass.

@Collaborate I'd be interested to see what you think re the replies to your post - not in a combative way at all, but as to what you thought non-binary was and if you still think it or feel it's ridiculously confusing?!

The shooter has told us how they identify. We are not supposed to question that identity.

So far I've seen JKR, the LGBAlliance, Mumsnetters and all females who ever said 'hang on a minute, my rights matter too you know' blamed and told they have blood on their hands, being entirely responsible for this individual having gone berserk in another country with a history that makes this no real surprise.

In actual fact, the most overt, outspoken, confident homophobia in modern times comes from TQ+ political followers, who are furious with homosexuals who won't do straight sex on command. And who frequently talk about raping and killing those who won't do what they say.

JFC...your racism in this comment is vile. Ghetto? Seriously?

But I'm happy to explain how gun violence in Chicago is a result of Republican policy. Chicago is near the Indiana state border. Illinois has stricter gun regulations than Indiana. There is a gun trade that moves large quantities of illicit guns from Indiana into Chicago. Illinois state legislatures and Chicago city government have been fighting this for years. www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/27/chicago-sues-gun-store-tied-850-guns-recovered-crime-scenes/4854619001/

So, even if you vote for stronger gun laws in Illinois, it doesn't matter if your neighboring, very red Republican state thwarts this with their Republican 'no regulation' gun laws.

But the people in Chicago and greater Illinois vote for stronger gun laws...but this is thwarted by Republicans in neighboring states like Indiana who have laxer gun laws which feeds an illicit trade into Chicago.

When people identify as non-binary, they are trying to claim they really aren't a man or a woman, which is, of course, a biological impossibility. However, all evidence points to sex being the determining factor in male pattens of physicality, sexual aggression and violence.

This non-binary nonsense shows that whenever someone claims to be NB, if that person wins a marathon or goes on shooting spree or sexually assaults someone, it's always going to be a male NB. Men mixed with guns are the problem. While 'hate' may be a factor in some instances of violence, it can't account for all of them. The two consistent factors are men and weapons. This problem is ancient. A confusing pronoun won't change it.

As part of taking "educate yourself" seriously, I read a lot of stuff by TRAs. I also read a lot of bios of adult trans people. Having a homophobic parent is a very common factor.

Obviously what is relevant to this and indeed most violent crimes is the fact he's male and had the opportunity (which in the US tends to = guns). Whilst "hate" may be a factor is it really the right thing to focus on? Presumably as many women "hate" the things which men "hate" but women remain vastly underrepresented as perpetrators of violent crime.

The comments from the father seem unhinged. So unhinged I'm wondering if it's a deliberate ploy on the part of the defense!

More news from preliminary hearings. It seems that Anderson was identifying as non-binary for a while as was the mother. Anderson had been to the club multiple times over a year did karaoke there. The mother was forcing him to go to the club apparently.

www.cpr.org/2023/02/27/club-q-shooting-hearing-news-colorado-springs/

Massive mental and drug problems, as well as unsurprisingly an obsession with the the far right and mass killings by men and spending a lot of time online.

Sounds like a far typical profile of a disaffected mass shooter in the States. Down to the sex of the killer.

So the whole women saying things caused this mass murder has collapsed. Instead we get a deranged racist man with a gun obsession going wild again. Only we are supposed to pretend that this one is different from every other mass shooter because of gender magic. No way he is similar to the right wing killers he idolized because he is not a man at all.

The attempt to say Anderson was not part of the LGBT community which was in play soon after the murders are clearly not sustainable. Clearly the defence are going for the my client was mentally ill type defence to get a reduced sentence. They will use NB identity as part of that.

Suspect’s mom may have forced Club Q attendance
An online friend told police that Laura Voepell, Aldrich’s mother, forced Aldrich to go to gay bars. Police were also informed that Voepell is nonbinary. That same friend also said Aldrich was obsessed with homicide and the Nazis. They said Aldrich hated police, minorities and LGBTQ people.

The defense also shed light on multiple 911 calls to Aldrich and Voepell's residence, alleging a troubled home situation with both dealing with mental health challenges

He is a grown man, but his mother forced him? He hates LGBTQ people but he's non binary? Well this a mess.

I'm going gay man who can't deal with the fact who had a fixation on murder and nazis and easy access to guns. Mix in the obvious mental health issues required to go around killing random people and it still comes down to one thing:

Entitled man does what the fuck he wants.

Its hard to know whether "forced" means a mum who was putting her (adult) child in a "you will be gender queer now come to the gay bar" box, or a mum who was trying to make her bedroom-bound son leave the house and do something social and being NB was his main/only thing. Or a mix of both.

The attempt to say Anderson was not part of the LGBT community which was in play soon after the murders are clearly not sustainable. Clearly the defence are going for the my client was mentally ill type defence to get a reduced sentence. They will use NB identity as part of that.

I can't see how they can use a non-binary identity as any sort of a defence?

Yup, sounds like mentally ill, far-right obsessed, racist gay guy with internalised homophobia. Hence non-binary ID.
Absolutely sick if he was planning to livestream murder. How do people get like this?
And apart from everything else, when are they going to do something about the guns?

Same way the "crime while trans" defence usually works. Being a particular identity has contributed to the defendant's mental health issues therefore they are a mitigation factor. So you argue for a reduced sentence etc. Obviously in this case there is no way they can argue the defendant is innocent - the best they can hope for is a lighter sentence. This crime is particularly awful so it is unlikely to work. You can see the defence case in the emphasis they are laying on the defendant's terrible mental health clearly they are think of going for an insanity plea .

This kind of defence does work fairly often though these are some examples :

www.womenarehuman.com/too-good-for-prison-9-times-judges-decided-being-transgender-is-punishment-enough/

It is pretty clear that criminals and lawyers know this defence can work to some degree. You see it being used more and more. As time goes on it will be more common and it will generate more backlash. Especially in the US where the Republican right has no compunction in branding entire communities as prone to crime it is a great vote winner for them.

He says he is non-binary, and considering that non-binary is only a thing that can be self-defined everyone should accept him as non-binary, and all of those in America saying that he isn't don't have a leg to stand on.

Either accept that he is non-binary or accept that non-binary is complete nonsense.

I don't see how anybody could deny his non-binary status? Based on what? He's not a nice person?

Schrodinger gender.