Mass Shooter in Colorado identifies as non-binary

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Anderson Aldrich, the evil male who shot up a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs and killed 5 people in a horrific act is according to their lawyers non-binary.

"Anderson Aldrich is non-binary. They use they/them pronouns, and for the purposes of all formal filings, will be addressed as Mx. Aldrich,"

www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-springs-lgbtq-club-shooting-suspect-identifying-non-binary-court-documents/

We still don't know much about Aldrich's motivations yet. It could be he is a male predator with mental issues who has used non binary pronouns to get closer to victims for a while like Ezra Miller. Alternatively it could be he was alienated from society and being non-binary was part of a mental escape. Perhaps he was angry at his family and society and decided to go on a killing spree a common motivation in in the States where guns are so accessible.

Alternatively we could be looking at a male right wing fanatic who sees gay culture as evil and a joke and is suddenly identifying as non-binary so he can justify killing people and is trying to create an ideological defence.

What we do know about him is he has a history of violence and bomb threats against his family. His family life was chaotic with a porn star father and mother dealing with drug abuse & alcoholism, and he was bullied at school. So this could fit either option turning to the escapism of genderism or turning to the right:
edition.cnn.com/2022/11/22/us/colorado-suspect-background-aldrich-invs/index.html

A lot of this fits the profile of the average mass shooter - an isolated young male, with power fantasies, and love of guns. Why they claim to kill people - religion, incelism, politics, insecurity, desire for fame, being bullied - ultimately doesn't matter that much.

It doesn't matter how men identify themselves or what excuses they use to justify violence. The point is male violence is part of life, especially while young, we can minimise it, but it we have to recognise it as the threat it is as a society and prioritise safety first and that SEX Matters. Decent men know this and will help us do that.

Initially after the killing lots of people online were blaming American and British feminists and right wing Republicans for the killing because they have both are critical of drag queen acts for kids, defending women's sports, and are against medical experimentation on kids. Anderson identifying as non-binary shows absurd that is. Yes Republicans who idolize male gun culture and violence do have responsibility of course. They have responsibility for all the 20-30,000 killings in the USA every year - not just this one. Women who are trying to stop all violence do not - it is absurd to think they do.

Whatever Aldrich motivations his evil act demonstrates how male violence works. People were fine with self id when it was about raping and murdering women - now when a gay club is shot up by someone non-binary will people take safeguarding seriously? Perhaps being non binary means he will be jailed in a women's prison - how messed up will that be. Or perhaps he will claim he was being bullied and transphobia turned him into a killer and try to get a sentence reduction.

This case is probably going to be massive.

"Anderson Aldrich is non-binary. They use they/them pronouns, and for the purposes of all formal filings, will be addressed as Mx. Aldrich,"

So getting your pronouns right is no protection against you going mad with a gun. Well who would have thought it?

And it makes me wonder... how many genetically female mass shooters have there been? Binary, non-binary, cis-het, transmen, whatever? You'd almost think there was a big problem with male people and guns regardless of their gender identity (the people not the guns) But maybe I'm just jumping to conclusions.

It is rare for female people to be mass shooters or serial killers. Very rare, but it has happened in the US, at least, when the definition of 'mass' in mass murder is three or more victims. I can recall one case which did follow the pattern of mass murders of the kind this thread is about where the victims are not family members or close acquaintances but relative strangers.

I can't speculate on the shooters motive but I wasn't at all surprised when I heard they identified as NB.
There is a massive groundswell of homophobia within the T, especially in the United States. I've noticed that as long as they put 'cis' in front first, people will say the most horrendously homophobic and even violent things about gay men and lesbians.
Type "cis gays" into Google and on the first page, almost every single result is a negative view of gay men, including a link to a reddit trans post of someone saying how much they hate them.
There's a growing element in the US that's pretty much the left wing mirror of Westboro, with the exception that they're rarely called to account for the awful way they behave towards gay people.
It's also despicable that the people who have been calling out that homophobia, are the ones who are being blamed for inflaming the shooter.
First rule of misogyny: women are to blame for what men do.

I presume they mean that if it weren't for the gun-nuts, guns would be mostly illegal like the rest of the world, where mass shootings are very rare.

I agree, GUN CONTROL NOW

Yes, that trans model screaming at women in New York was also shouting 'faggot' at gay men

He could be a big blue walking alien for all I care. The point isn’t what he is. It’s what he did. Which was murder innocent people.

Apparently according to a trans-woman interviewed by CNN the shooter isn't non-binary. How way the trans-woman knows this? She can look at a photo of him and tell the shooter is a man and not non-binary:

twitter.com/ChrisPlanteShow/status/1595462738318327808

Who says the Americans don't understand irony 😂

Also pointing out that someone is "taking the easy way out" by identifying as "non-binary" is an odd observation for someone from the LGBTQIA++ community to make. What happened to "most vulnerable minority"?

It's incredible isn't it.? Whatever happened to mis gendering being a hate crime and 'people are what they say they are' and to question it is transphobic?

It's almost as it its all absolute bollocks🤔😂

Saying it's 'Taking the easy way out' by being non-binary would be seen as offensive by a great many people!

So are we now having to have a discussion about the criteria someone has to meet to actually be trans then? Or will it go straight back to 'you are what you identify as'?

Homophobia is live and kicking and all the gender stuff is making it worse.

So anyone under the TQ+ is the most marginalised, but also this guy is identifying as TQ+ to try and get special treatment? Which one is it?

And most of the responses seem to be implying that misgendering a mass murderer ( alleged) is possibly a worse crime than murdering gay people since no one appears to be offering condolences or regret for their deaths.

He'll probably be a woman by the time he goes to trial.

The craziest thing about this is that trans people never had anything to gain by allowing anyone to call themselves trans, as the sensible members of the community have been pointing out for years.

Allowing rapists to claim to be women was always going to end in a backlash from which trans people were always going to be losers.

A few years ago I might have hoped that this might ultimately lead to a little more peace and understanding but I'm more despairing now.

Further to comment above this is from a commenter on Truscum Reddit.

Truscum and transmedicalist ideology were vindicated today, and tucutes are caught in a trap they never expected to be in. My hope is they will see how dangerous their ideology truly is.

The whole post is worth reading.

www.reddit.com/r/truscum/comments/z2pznt/what_the_colorado_shooter_claiming_to_be/

Can anyone translate the terminology? Tucute, truscum, transmedicalist?

The father of the shooter was interviewed (see link below).
He said:

They started telling me about the incident, a shooting... And then I go on to find out it’s a gay bar. I got scared, ‘Shit, is he gay?’ And he’s not gay, so I said, phew… I am a conservative Republican.

Does anyone seriously think that the shooter was non-binary? Clearly he did not present as female - at least not to his family. This is not a trans shooter. This is right wing terrorism. Curiously the extreme right wing is also very much anti-trans too.

twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1595519454900805649?s=20&t=AibnJrQjalNr-9vrSlo21g

The craziest thing about this is that trans people never had anything to gain by allowing anyone to call themselves trans

I agree in some ways yes.

However, the group in general did have much to gain.

They gained members and thereby momentum for the extreme beliefs of some group members. To the extremist sub group, allowing so many people under the umbrella meant they were much closer to achieving their goals.

And they leveraged children and teens to do it, too.

yes. I believe.

Because we have had it drummed in to us to believe any one who says they are trans is trans.

It cannot be both ways.

Does anyone seriously think that the shooter was non-binary? Clearly he did not present as female - at least not to his family. This is not a trans shooter.

So you believe there are criteria to meet to being trans. What are they, and how are they assessed?

Please bear in mind that concept has been called transphobic gatekeepering for a long time.

This is right wing terrorism

And trans people can be right wing terrorists too.

But @Collaborate we have to believe people who are who they say they are, and we are told no one would ever claim to be trans or NB if they really weren’t.so he’s NB if he says he is. Maybe he was too scared to come out to his dad and family. So either people will use claiming trans for nefarious reasons, in which case there needs to be tighter scrutiny of what it means to be trans, or this was really a Trans person who decided to kill people for homophobic reasons?

And being non-binary doesn't mean "presenting as female". Your identity shouldn't be judged by your appearance.

"Does anyone seriously think that the shooter was non-binary?"

Either this guy is non-binary or nobody is. There's no physical criteria that makes you non-binary, there's no place of birth or parentage that determines it. There's not even any code of behaviour to adhere to. If it's not adhering to gender norms then again, anyone and everyone can be it at any moment and pick the norms that they consider part of their gender.

Either this guy is allowed to be non-binary or nobody is. There's no gatekeeping on this. Nor can there be. And it is frankly hilarious in the darkest way that a trans woman goes on CNN and says they can tell he's not trans because you look at the photo and he looks like a man. What the transwoman means is woman = style of dress and make-up. Equal parts offensive and absurd.

Does anyone seriously think that the shooter was non-binary? Clearly he did not present as female - at least not to his family. This is not a trans shooter.

As others on this thread have also pointed out @Collaborate the shooter is what he/she/they say they are. Anything else is transphobic and a hate crime and is just wrong according to trans law.

You cannot have it both ways. Either someone is what they say they are and that is written in law by self-ID or people are not necessarily what they say they are and legal safe-guards are in place. It cannot be one rule for some and a different rule for others.

Personally I don't care what the shooter identifies as as I don't believe in gender woo-woo but I do know that (assuming the named shooter is guilty) they are a murderer.