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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Starmer wants you to "ask her to stand"

54 replies

ResisterRex · 22/11/2022 07:35

I wasn't sure if it was a parody of some kind. But it seems to be real

https://twitter.com/keirstarmer/status/1594659089325457408?s=46&t=xQFF9CqEkX7Ts6jXg05dQ

The replies don't hold back

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loislovesstewie · 22/11/2022 10:47

I've voted Labour all of my life, and that is a long time. I'm not sure now how to vote because the party just doesn't seem to care about those who are its natural supporters. And as an actual woman I don't want to support any party that thinks that my dignity and safety is of no importance. If I decided to put myself forward I would be shown the door fairly smartly because I am not their demographic any more. What have we come to?

Helleofabore · 22/11/2022 11:00

As if only feminists are really women.

yes. That struck me too. Surely the idea is to recruit as many people who are female so that they are representative of half of the population? And many women are not feminists. And maybe even less using that label over the past 3 months.

nilsmousehammer · 22/11/2022 11:28

Starmer, why the actual fuck do you think any woman would want to be involved with the male supremacist, reality denying, 'let's let women get raped in prisons cos male needs are so important' Labour Party?

Away with the bloody pixies, that one.

KittensNotMittens · 22/11/2022 11:29

Lily? Is Lily back?

BlackForestCake · 22/11/2022 14:03

How come Labour can purge the actual Marxist hard left but they can't purge a bunch of blue-haired children who watch too much anime?

walkinginsunshinekat · 22/11/2022 14:10

nilsmousehammer · 22/11/2022 11:28

Starmer, why the actual fuck do you think any woman would want to be involved with the male supremacist, reality denying, 'let's let women get raped in prisons cos male needs are so important' Labour Party?

Away with the bloody pixies, that one.

Aren't the awful violations we are seeing now happen under a Tory Government or did i miss the 2022 general election?

Didn't a woman, whilst being attacked by her ex partner get murdered because the Police didn't take it seriously, despite several calls or Sarah Everard and the subsequent Police response.

i think Starmer is an idiot but he isn't responsible for the last 12.5 years of cuts to public services that effect women more than men.

Thelnebriati · 22/11/2022 14:18

Labour are committed to making self ID law.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/11/2022 14:26

ResisterRex · 22/11/2022 10:04

Starmer:

https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1442783035389325313?s=46&t=xQF9CqEkX7Ts6jj_Xg05dQ

I can't believe he's got the nerve to call for more women to stand. The post about Karen Ingala-Smith really highlights what needs fixing in the LP. And look at poor Rosie Duffield. He needs to get his house in order before embarking on social media stunts.

Jesus

what a roll call of disingenuous fuckwits

howmanybicycles · 22/11/2022 14:29

walkinginsunshinekat · 22/11/2022 14:10

Aren't the awful violations we are seeing now happen under a Tory Government or did i miss the 2022 general election?

Didn't a woman, whilst being attacked by her ex partner get murdered because the Police didn't take it seriously, despite several calls or Sarah Everard and the subsequent Police response.

i think Starmer is an idiot but he isn't responsible for the last 12.5 years of cuts to public services that effect women more than men.

He's doing his level best to hide such facts though under a self ID agenda. Nothing will achieve alleged equality faster than letting any man 'be' a woman on his own say so.

PigLightingBastard · 22/11/2022 14:44

Things Starmer hasn't said in the last 12 ywars of Tory rule:

  • it's a total disgrace there are men in female refuges
  • it's awful there are men in women's prisons
  • men shouldn't be on women's hospital wards
  • that the police are misogynistic and need reform
  • bullying of Rosie Duffield is bad

Things he has said:

  • that self ID is brilliant
  • not all women have a cervix
  • Karen Ingala Smith is rejected from joining the Labour Party

He's totally happy where he is.

nilsmousehammer · 22/11/2022 14:46

walkinginsunshinekat · 22/11/2022 14:10

Aren't the awful violations we are seeing now happen under a Tory Government or did i miss the 2022 general election?

Didn't a woman, whilst being attacked by her ex partner get murdered because the Police didn't take it seriously, despite several calls or Sarah Everard and the subsequent Police response.

i think Starmer is an idiot but he isn't responsible for the last 12.5 years of cuts to public services that effect women more than men.

The Tories are at least starting to make noises about waking up to this mess and there is some hope of dragging the wheel around on the tanker.

Labour would embrace it at high speed and with open enthusiasm for as much harm to females as the TQ+ political lobby fancy. They are rampant male supremacists.

nilsmousehammer · 22/11/2022 14:47

There will also be no point worrying about the harm of cuts on women when women and female mean 'anyone of any sex' and the MoJ have announced that mentioning the word 'biological female' or 'woman' is code for a hate crime agenda.

WickedSerious · 22/11/2022 19:08

I might think this was a good thing if Starmer had any idea what a woman is.

AnyFucker · 22/11/2022 19:14

If Kier Starmer knew what a woman was, I might take him seriously

But he doesn’t, so I don’t

dropthevipers · 22/11/2022 20:16

Vote for Kier "saying only women have a cervix is something that should not be said" Starmer? I don't think so. I would have had more respect if he showed up on the Andrew Marr show wearing a tin foil hat saying "I'm fucking mental, me".

ScrollingLeaves · 22/11/2022 21:15

ClimbingCancelled · Today 09:43
thevelvetchronicle.com/ny-democrats-quietly-dismantle-1-male-1-female-rule/

This shows very clearly what can happen when a policy with woolly definitions of man and woman impacts women.

If the policy was male / female I would applaud the statement from Keir however it's useless as a chocolate fire-guard when he says the word 'woman' can include adult human males.

I have no words to describe how I feel about that velvet chronicle report. That man who identifies as a woman and who has managed to remove the role of women there is bad enough, but the people who let it happen are a thousand times worse.

TrainedByCats · 22/11/2022 22:28

lechiffre55 · 22/11/2022 09:51

Agreed on there's no clear party to vote for. Both the two main ones are terrible.
I'm more higlighting Starmer's performative hypocrisy which is pure box ticking.
I wonder if Labour will have a male "woman" leader before they have a female woman leader. That would be quite funny and also incredibly depressing at the same time.

Almost all the minor parties are awful too. Your speculation is probably depressingly accurate

ResisterRex · 25/11/2022 13:26

Now he says protecting women and girls is his "mission" Hmm

https://twitter.com/keirstarmer/status/1596075366006886402?s=46&t=jaQNbdzZ00KIqq_w9dqCUqQ

"It is my personal mission to tackle violence against women and girls. It is destroying lives and families. This government is failing, Labour would act to protect women. Here are three ways we'll do that.

Impose tougher sentences for rape, stalking and domestic murder, including a minimum sentence for rape of seven years and whole life tariffs for rape, abduction and murder. 1/3

Roll out new specialist rape courts, fast-tracking rape cases and supporting victims. 2/3

Establish a new Domestic Violence Register for serial domestic abusers and stalkers. 3/3"

But nothing about tackling the culture in which these things manifest themselves. And of course no clear backtracking on his commitment to self-ID, which would endanger us.

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WickedSerious · 25/11/2022 13:37

I don't understand how he can 'protect women and girls' when he doesn't know what they are.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/11/2022 13:48

Hmmm:
1/3 "Impose tougher sentences for rape, stalking and domestic murder, including a minimum sentence for rape of seven years and whole life tariffs for rape, abduction and murder"

Then we'll place those rapists / abusive men / stalkers who claim to be women in women's prisons alongside their victims. 🤔

His commitment to women's safety is somewhat lacking.

nilsmousehammer · 25/11/2022 13:57

MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/11/2022 13:48

Hmmm:
1/3 "Impose tougher sentences for rape, stalking and domestic murder, including a minimum sentence for rape of seven years and whole life tariffs for rape, abduction and murder"

Then we'll place those rapists / abusive men / stalkers who claim to be women in women's prisons alongside their victims. 🤔

His commitment to women's safety is somewhat lacking.

Quite.

He'll happily crack on with enabling rapes on women's hospital wards and male prisons while helping to suppress any discussion about them, silence the women involved, and cover the whole mess up.

He intends in fact to make decisions on which rapes are allowed to matter and which don't.

ScrollingLeaves · 25/11/2022 15:15

Establish a new Domestic Violence Register for serial domestic abusers and stalkers. 3/3"

Where would they be on the register with a new name, and a K Starmer “It’s the law” -change -of- sex according to records?

howmanybicycles · 25/11/2022 15:42

Honestly I'm struggling to read this thread because that man is such a massive creep he makes my skin crawl. Arrogant enough to think he's better than every other sexist pig.

nilsmousehammer · 25/11/2022 17:58

Shall we open the book on whether a male on the Domestic Violence register would be welcome to identify into a women's refuge?

Being a serious, multiple sex offender after all is no barrier to identifying into women's prisons.

Riapia · 25/11/2022 19:08

Couldn’t be simpler, if they tell Smarmy they’re a woman then they are.
Being female could prove to be a disadvantage.