Most Albanian asylum seekers granted UK visas are trafficked women

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Analysis from the Oxford Migration Observatory reveals that 86 per cent of Albanians who received positive decisions on asylum applications in the year ending June 2022 were women, whose leave to remain was granted on the basis that they were likely to have been trafficked and in genuine need of protection.

uk.news.yahoo.com/revealed-most-albanian-asylum-seekers-161018072.html

Just wanted to post this as the main stream media and the politicians are just whipping up hysteria by not reporting statistical facts.

But then its only women so who cares. :(

I wanted us to think before allowing emotive and false headlines to influence our feelings

The BBC article appears to be using government figures, and seems fairly neutral in its reporting.

Agree. They are lost into the population and their claims cannot be assessed. But it doesn’t mean the headlines are incorrect re 10,000 males arriving.

Just a reminder that the title of this was asylum seekers granted UK visas

It seems that the screaming headlines have worked to the extent that we cant have a proper discussion about asylum seekers, including the fact that the Rwanda proposal is in breach of the Human Rights convention that the UK signed.

As to the earlier remark about what my opinion was, is that the UK would do far better to face up to helping sort out the problems it created in other countries, eg Syria and doing something to pay back the benefits to countries we have profited from in the past, so that the peole who live there can attain a life style that means that dont think coming to richer europeans countries is there only hope of a better life.

But as others have said, as a country how is it not possible to sort out women fleeing violence and needing shelter / asylum?

Everything is always going to be worse than it need be if we cant manage the basics, eg have enough affordable housing, enough schools, and an NHS that is leaking staff because the working conditions and pay is so awful.

What screaming headlines? The first article I read about this was the BBC one, prompted by your thread.

Sure, we can talk about visas granted, but the thread is discussing the issue in general, no?

What has been the UK's involvement in Albania? Have we caused problems there that mean we have responsibility to sort out organised crime in Albania?

I mean it would be wonderful if we could solve all the world's problems, obviously. But it seems a bit simplistic to think that we have that power - or even that right.

We keep hearing they come to the uk because of the language yet then there is talk about translation services and English courses and thousands spent on providing it.

Then the family claim - of course the moment one person get granted a right to stay they will have family here. This will just then explode, it's not a good enough reason.

They all want to work and/or are qualified. I can guarantee the moment that someone says they should do xyz job eg fruit picking the lawyers will be on it saying they shouldn't be forced to work or do jobs they don't want to. Anyway if they can't speak English it's hard to work here. Where are the stats about this - none of them have papers so where is the evidence they are all qualified.

I don't mind supporting women as they vulnerable and have been trafficked. But I don't want all these young males and don't see they have reason enough to be allowed to stay here. Germany had untold problems with the all the young men that Merkel let in.

Lastly there is talk now if those being he's receiving compensation. Whilst thousands in the uk can't get seen by a doctor and are struggling. It's a disgrace.

You have lost me OP. Can only talk about female Albanians but now we are talking about Syria. The boundaries of the conversation are confusing so 🤷‍♀️

I think it's striking how the op uses intemperate language while blaming others of being intemperate. Get your own house in order

How can a person be born in the UK and then ‘trafficked’ to the UK ?

Above post was referencing ‘discover reads’ assertion re 1/3 of women uk born being trafficked ☘️👍🏿

I think it's trafficked in the UK, rather than to the UK. So driven to different towns for exploitation.

1/3rd (34%) of trafficked people in the U.K. are British born (male and female)

You can be trafficked without being trafficked across international borders.

Op this to me just sounds like wishful thinking. We are trillions of pounds in debt after the pandemic. We simply do not have the resources to prop up the numbers you suggest.
We are struggling to secure funding for our local domestic violence shelters for women here, much less all the need globally.

As wonderful as it would be it’s simply not realistic, and won’t be for years.

re various comments, I am not saying what is permissable to post, just that in talking about the problem overall the specific situation of women escaping male violence gets lost. It would help if mumsnet talk forum enabled threaded posts, eg being able to group comments about:
women refugees escaping male violence
economic migrants
human trafficking
government incompetence
gorvernment failure to invest in basics means any additional demands create problems
and so on

And I was asked what I would want. But I am old enough to know what I want and what I can get or expect are two very different things.

Did anyone listen to any answers this afternoon?

I cant find any specific projects offering support for Albanian Women escaping domestic violence.

There seems to have been some sort of short lived partnership with Solace Women's Aid, not sure if it offers ongiong support. :( shpresaprogramme.org/services/information/domestic-violence/

Some research into the particular problems for women and male violence in Albania:

1. This paper argues that, in many cases, asylum-seekers from Albania who are victims of domestic violence will not be able to avail themselves of a sufficiency of protection or an internal relocation alternative on return. This will be the case, in particular, for victims of domestic violence who are from poor families, who lack a social support network and/or who have physical or mental disabilities. The paper argues that the Home Office Country Policy and Information Note (CPIN) is wrong where it suggests that such claims can properly be certified as “clearly unfounded” under section 94 of the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002.
2. The paper highlights evidence that victims of domestic violence face significant hurdles in obtaining domestic violence protection orders; that such orders are often ineffective even where they are granted; and that victims can be traced easily in another part of the country through word of mouth. It argues that poverty and lack of a support network are major barriers to accessing effective protection. It also highlights evidence that, aside from the risk from the original abuser, some victims of domestic violence will be vulnerable to trafficking, even if they have not been trafficked in the past. It suggests that when considering whether a victim of domestic violence will be adequately protected on return to Albania, decision-makers should apply the factors in TD and AD (Trafficked women) CG [2016] UKUT 92 (IAC) by analogy.

miclu.org/assets/uploads/2021/02/Albania-victims-of-domestic-violence-paper.pdf

Murders in Albania increased by 13% in 2021. Women and girls killed by their partner, ex-partner or family member made up close to one third of all cases. In most cases, victims had already been granted protection from the police, such as taking out restraining orders against their assailant.

The data reveals a disturbing lack of enforcement regarding domestic violence against women, and the insufficiency of Albania’s legal framework to deal with the issue.

www.eu-ocs.com/pandemic-sees-worsening-domestic-violence-against-women-in-albania/

Thank you very much, I was very interested to read the facts and statistics about this.
I am glad the U.K. have realised that Albanian trafficked women have no protection in Albania and do need asylum here, even though Albania is not at war.
Of the 55% successful claims, 86% of those are women.

It seems about 45% of Albanians are not successful and the majority of these would be men.. This would still be a large number.
The great problem seems to be that the U.K. does not have enough people working to process the applications quickly enough.

I personally feel worried about Albanian traffickers and criminals moving here.

There was quite a scary report in the Times today about how rampant criminal gangs are, and how hard it is to get justice etc.. But also (not reported by UK media who seem to ignore European news) that other countries have experienced Albanian gangs using migrant routes to set up networks in other cities, with some sucess.

Seems to be another instance where the UK Government seems to think we really can exist as an island and not be connected, impacted by what is happening elsewhere.

We never seem prepared for anything. News story yesterday that the Government is employee people who have been working at check outs etc., which is not to say they couldn't do the job, but 24 hours training isn't really the basis for making asylum applications. No wonder they are only getting through 1.3 applications a week.

But to add I do think that communities that are mainly made up of men does create problems for immediate neighbours, as no doubt other countries have experienced when workers from the UK go to other countries and form an outside male community.