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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Who are Posie's new friends?

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AreWeTheBaddies · 31/10/2022 22:33

Posie seems to be happy with her new pals

twitter.com/reclaimingtrans/status/1586824527845236737?t=Q3mzuZMyqPxSXwguwBc5_A&s=19

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catandcoffee · 02/11/2022 01:11

She's doing an amazing job over there. Brave Women with all those crazy men who want to harm her.

Bosky · 02/11/2022 04:45

Hey! Good news, AreWeTheBaddies - YesYouAre!

There is a call-out for Leftie Gender Critical Blokes across the USA and Canada to volunteer and get organised to provide Quaker-style Security to protect the likes of Kellie-Jay from the rabid, women-hating, cowardly bullies who have been attacking them!

Seeing as how you have been so concerned about her difficulty sourcing security that ticks all the right boxes, I hope you will support this initiative and make sure that all your friends do too.

This is really one in the eye for all those doubters who said that KJK touring North America would do no good and only make things worse for everyone.

Quite a catalyst for good is our Kellie-Jay 💚💟💜

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KeystoneKate · 02/11/2022 07:26

@Bosky Can you explain what you mean by 'Quaker-style Security' please?

EdithStourton · 02/11/2022 07:31

I think it means not hitting people, but letting them hit you rather than their target.

beastlyslumber · 02/11/2022 07:45

AreWeTheBaddies · 01/11/2022 23:40

I'm not an academic feminist, I'm your basic working class one.

You're a basic misogynist, is what you are.

ScreamingMeMe · 02/11/2022 08:06

From twitter:

"The man that took the selfie with Kellie-Jay Keen reached out and clarified his position. He asked me to keep his account private and I’m respecting that."

twitter.com/FaitAccompli75/status/1587628879098908674?t=5YVBJWP4CHvxHkae8SwHeg&s=19

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ScreamingMeMe · 02/11/2022 08:07

I think people have already said as much: where TRAs and Antifa gather to protest, their counterparts will follow.

comebetweenus · 02/11/2022 08:23

ScreamingMeMe · 02/11/2022 08:06

From twitter:

"The man that took the selfie with Kellie-Jay Keen reached out and clarified his position. He asked me to keep his account private and I’m respecting that."

twitter.com/FaitAccompli75/status/1587628879098908674?t=5YVBJWP4CHvxHkae8SwHeg&s=19

It's a shame he won't go public with this, the head girls and tras will just say this is some screenshotted text without provenance - is it likely he could be persuaded to make a public statement for the sake of Kellie-Jay?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 02/11/2022 08:40

ReunitedThorns · 01/11/2022 23:00

Listening to a Trigonometry episode about Incels, researchers found that Incels were more likely to be left-wing because they believe everything should be shared, or have equal access to, and the target of that is the female body and sexual intercourse.

Incels aren't keen on the successful high earners, because that's what they're not.

I was just thinking that all the alpha men are probably sat in the middle making money

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 02/11/2022 08:50

Bosky · 02/11/2022 04:45

Hey! Good news, AreWeTheBaddies - YesYouAre!

There is a call-out for Leftie Gender Critical Blokes across the USA and Canada to volunteer and get organised to provide Quaker-style Security to protect the likes of Kellie-Jay from the rabid, women-hating, cowardly bullies who have been attacking them!

Seeing as how you have been so concerned about her difficulty sourcing security that ticks all the right boxes, I hope you will support this initiative and make sure that all your friends do too.

This is really one in the eye for all those doubters who said that KJK touring North America would do no good and only make things worse for everyone.

Quite a catalyst for good is our Kellie-Jay 💚💟💜

Hopefully it is quaker style security or by actual security firms

cos otherwise you’ll get two groups of men having a fight

and somehow…no idea how obviously 🤔…somehow, it will end up as KJKs fault

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 02/11/2022 08:53

ScreamingMeMe · 02/11/2022 08:07

I think people have already said as much: where TRAs and Antifa gather to protest, their counterparts will follow.

BUT THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS SCREAMING

Men never just turn up for a ruck, they have to be invited…usually by KJK

Helleofabore · 02/11/2022 08:56

Bosky · 02/11/2022 04:45

Hey! Good news, AreWeTheBaddies - YesYouAre!

There is a call-out for Leftie Gender Critical Blokes across the USA and Canada to volunteer and get organised to provide Quaker-style Security to protect the likes of Kellie-Jay from the rabid, women-hating, cowardly bullies who have been attacking them!

Seeing as how you have been so concerned about her difficulty sourcing security that ticks all the right boxes, I hope you will support this initiative and make sure that all your friends do too.

This is really one in the eye for all those doubters who said that KJK touring North America would do no good and only make things worse for everyone.

Quite a catalyst for good is our Kellie-Jay 💚💟💜

Good news!!

Although, I watched the Chicago footage. Fuck that was horrific! However there were police there.

And the people doing security there looked to be a mix of men and women. I saw mostly women. Brave, brave women who worked to keep the crowd back.

Where was this ‘proud boy’ security? It really seems to me to be further misrepresentation. Or were those women the proud boys?

I am now confused.

Babasghost · 02/11/2022 09:01

AreWeTheBaddies · 31/10/2022 22:33

Is that you Ali? Jcj?
It's time to stop your vendetta. It's pathetic. Attacking other women instead of joining us in the fight against the patriarchy.
Disgraceful

Babasghost · 02/11/2022 09:14

FlibbertyGiblets · 01/11/2022 23:04

Ohai, sorry to butt in. Who is the 'we' in this most recent post of yours, it isn't clear. Thank you.

100%👌

Moonatics · 02/11/2022 09:26

Lockheart · 01/11/2022 23:12

As opposed to all the other posts on this thread which clearly aren't touchy about the close association with extreme far right ideology in any way.

Most of us on this thread dont give a stuff who posie has pictures taken with or who does the security detail (it's not like she is POTUS and even then I'm ambivalent about who is the president's security team)
And yet you took some massive offence to beta men and where they lie on the political spectrum.
Makes ya think

Lockheart · 02/11/2022 09:29

Moonatics · 02/11/2022 09:26

Most of us on this thread dont give a stuff who posie has pictures taken with or who does the security detail (it's not like she is POTUS and even then I'm ambivalent about who is the president's security team)
And yet you took some massive offence to beta men and where they lie on the political spectrum.
Makes ya think

I haven't taken any offence. Check the quote history...

I stand by my position that this entire thread is one huge touched nerve. I just thought that post was a little ironic.

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 02/11/2022 09:58

Lockheart · 02/11/2022 09:29

I haven't taken any offence. Check the quote history...

I stand by my position that this entire thread is one huge touched nerve. I just thought that post was a little ironic.

I don't see how it's a touched nerve. I just think most people on here literally don't care who KJK gets security from. If "left-wing" people won't work with her, who's left? Good for her for keeping going.
If I was in danger of being injured by the frankly insane TRAs in the USA, I'd accept help from anyone who'd give it TBH, I certainly wouldn't be checking on their political affiliation first.
People, both feminists on Twitter and TRAs, are going to disapprove of whatever she does, so she's never going to win with them. She has her eyes on the prize of getting everyone to be aware of what's happening to kids.
I can respect that, even if I wouldn't do things in the exact same way that she does.

Moonatics · 02/11/2022 10:05

Lockheart · 02/11/2022 09:29

I haven't taken any offence. Check the quote history...

I stand by my position that this entire thread is one huge touched nerve. I just thought that post was a little ironic.

How is "I dont give a stuff who provides security/who has selfies with pp at an open meeting" taking offence.
I wouldnt even know she had selfies/security with some random man without it being on here.

To be clear I also dont give a stuff who has selfies with/provides security for you, potus, Michael j fox, serena Williams, the prime minister of any country, the king.

It's not my circus, not my monkeys, I dont get paid to think about that shit.
I also give no stuffs to alpha or beta men being any wing.

NotBadConsidering · 02/11/2022 10:23

Just catching up with this thread.

So there are left wing and right wing security firms now?!

You learn something absolutely ludicrously bonkers new every day 🤣🤣🤣

FannyCann · 02/11/2022 10:25

Just posting KJK's latest YouTube update.
I don't know where she finds her strength, it's incredible what she is doing. Facing down USA TRAs is incredibly brave, and she gives courage to other women who are absolutely terrified.
It would be really helpful if people wouldn't go out of their way to make it harder for her and more dangerous for everyone attending.

FirstandLastBorn · 02/11/2022 10:30

Oh look, random dude takes a photo with KJK. Here he is explaining what happened. Clearly KJK is at fault for not checking his credentials before pic being taken.

twitter.com/faitaccompli75/status/1587628879098908674?s=46&t=r5cKzHK9qW83xmPaTXlikg

bellinisurge · 02/11/2022 10:41

Shock horror! People working as security have horrible right wing views. They are probably ex-police and, as we have seen in our own country only today, these can include a right shower of bastards - I have a close and much loved young family member who is a police officer and this sort of thing horrifies them. Or they are gun rights people in the US. A group not known for being very right-on.

Bosky · 02/11/2022 13:16

KeystoneKate · 02/11/2022 07:26

@Bosky Can you explain what you mean by 'Quaker-style Security' please?

I was quoting this tweet - it's in the screenshots:

"I'm into Quaker-style security. It's about taking punches not landing them."

twitter.com/stuartlosaltos/status/1587616298636562433

He is asking men in the USA and Canada to contact at him with a view to setting up a network.

His bio links to the Los Altos Institute:

www.losaltos.ca/about-us/los-altos-institute-principles/

Los Altos Institute shares much in common with leftist organizations, even some progressive ones. Below are eleven areas of thought about which our institute has developed distinctive positions. If you are wondering how well you would fit in with our group, here is a set of short summaries of those positions:

Socialist: We are a socialist institute; we are not progressive. We reject the founding principles of progressivism of cross-partisan consensus, technocracy, Social Darwinism and a belief in historical teleology. And we reject modern manifestations of progressivism in its embrace of reformism, false conflation of socialism and liberalism and its ongoing commodification and professionalization of citizen organizing and citizen representation.

Struggle-oriented: We are non solution-oriented; we are struggle-oriented. We believe that there has always existed a Manichean struggle between oppressors and the oppressed and that the struggle in which we find ourselves stretches back to the beginnings of society and will reach no conclusive end as long as humanity exists. We fight to make the time in which we live the most equitable and compassionate that it can be.

Eco-centric: We believe that the greatest threat humans face is the omnicide, the collapse of planetary life support systems due to human activity and human-caused events. And we believe that capitalism is incapable confronting the omnicide and, also, intrinsically unjust.

Democratic: We are democratic and, therefore, anti-technocratic. We believe in the Common Sense tradition of Thomas Paine and hold that a population that possesses basic education and a public square can metabolize, debate and pronounce upon expert knowledge when presented persuasively and accurately.

Non-identitarian: We comprehend identity as Intersubjective and, therefore, not subjective. We reject the idea that there exists a pre-existent self without society. We also reject the idea that individuals are capable of unilaterally constructing their identity within society.

Internationalist: We are internationalist in the tradition of George Orwell. We share the understanding that violence is systemic and inherent in both international systems and nation states and that violence is imposed upon equity- and freedom-seeking peoples and individuals from above. We also reject the idea the state is the appropriate unit with which to align internationally; internationalists must not ask what governments or states one support but rather what parties and social movements share our principles and priorities.

Marxian but not Marxist: Theoretically-informed empiricists in the tradition of Edward P Thompson and Andre Gunder Frank. This means that while we borrow from key Marxist writers, we reject a Marxist teleology of history and especially a Marxist eschaton. It also means that while we borrow from Dipesh Chakrabarty, Pui Lan Kwok and other postcolonial theorists, we are materialists who believe in the existence of a discoverable, physical world that underpins social phenomena and, consequently, reject standpoint epistemology and other attempted halfway houses between reason and un-reason.

We believe that gender, race and class are inherently oppressive categories from which human beings must seek to emancipate ourselves. And we understand that gender, race and class arise from unequal systems of labour and property when they interact with bodily difference and culture.

We understand empire to be an immanent property of demographically and geographically large systems. Our understanding is based on the work of Kevin Philips, Pekka Hämäläinen and others who understand empires as material energy-transfer structures rather than as intentional and moral agents. We believe that empires must be recognized, comprehended and democratized with the goal of creating equity-based energy systems, in the tradition of some Marxist analyses of the Inca Empire.

We understand that place and space matter in the making and experience of human societies but reject the modern concept of neighbourhoods and neighbours as enshrined in municipal law and modern theories “stakeholder” groups. We reject neighbours as a historically contingent phenomenon arising from dispossession and alienation both from ancestral land connections and from the meaningful execution of mobility rights.

We concur with George Manuel that there is a Fourth World comprising places and peoples still undergoing the process of colonization. British Columbia and the First Nations of BC are part of the Fourth World and we stand in solidarity with all Fourth Worlders from the Kalahari to Araucania to Skidegate in their efforts to free their people from colonialism.

Egalitarian: We believe in the equal rights and dignity of all persons and abhor discrimination in its various forms such as ageism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia, racism, ableism, etc. And we recognize the rights of any group facing such discrimination to organize among themselves on the basis of the discrimination they are suffering. We also recognize that bigotry and discrimination are distinct from but originate in the capitalist economic order and the oppression in perpetrates specifically through class, gender and caste.
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He is the President of the Los Altos Institute:
www.losaltos.ca/members/board-of-directors/
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No doubt the happy, cheeky chappies of Antifa and their SocFem sisters in crime are baking a cake to celebrate the good news already rooting through the digital dustbins of anyone ever connected with the Los Altos Institute, their relatives up to second cousins thrice removed and ancestors back to the dawn of history, in the hope of finding some smear-material and yet more mud to fling at KJK.

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Agreed