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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Content warning: Anaesthetist caught raping sedated woman during surgery

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BordoisAgain · 23/10/2022 10:16

I'm not going to link directly as it shows the whole uncensored video, but an anaesthetist has been caught on camera orally raping a woman during her c-section surgery.

Nurses had raised concerns about him in the past - they had noticed that some women coming out of surgery were in a deeper state of sedation than expected. Of course their concerns were ignored and their jobs were threatened if they spoke out so a hidden camera was set up which caught him in the act.

I really can't convey how this has made me feel.

Women aren't even safe in an operating theatre full of people. But requesting female care is a step too far.

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nilsmousehammer · 23/10/2022 10:42

Link this to the many videos on social media of males in female toilets, masturbating in the enjoyment of having their dick out in a female space with females around them who have their pants down. Often with commentary making the control and non consensuality aspects plain.

lentilly · 23/10/2022 10:43

I hope he is put in with general population at prison he deserves everything he gets

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/10/2022 10:43

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/10/2022 10:41

I am no expert on male sexual violence, but would I be right in saying that there's a lot of evidence that for some predators taking a huge risk of being caught is all part of whatever perverted urges drive them on?

Got interrupted and lost my train of thought. What I was going to add was, Nicola Sturgeon recently said sex offenders had no need to use deception to get access to victims. Very naive, surely.

Dillwyninthebath · 23/10/2022 10:45

Sorry to post again but I in shock that they posted the whole video, that woman now has all of these other depraved men wanking over her. Why did they have to put it online?

Smilelesstalkmore · 23/10/2022 10:46

What. The. Fuck?

I feel so upset by this, I just can't believe it.

And women get told they are bigots for not wanting males treating them when they are in incredibly vulnerable situations.

And further, this shows the lengths and the risks that men are willing to take to abuse women. There is nothing they won't do. All this, 'do you reeeeaaallly believe that a man would go to the trouble of identifying as a woman to abuse women'. Yes, yes I absolutely do believe that.

Fuck them all. I am actually in tears now, that poor woman.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/10/2022 10:48

Horrific. Particularly upsetting that other men are wanking over it.

Soubriquet · 23/10/2022 10:49

It’s all over Reddit too. Luckily her face is blurred in the video but it’s obvious what he is doing.

I don’t understand how this is legal to put all over the internet

blebbleb · 23/10/2022 10:50

pinheadlarry · 23/10/2022 10:35

I didnt know they sedate you during c section ? I was awake in mine
Unless it was emergency, which makes what he did even more depraved
i hope someone confiscates his man parts and throws him in a hole

It depends on the country. I think more women are sedated in the USA, maybe it's the same in Brazil.

Smilelesstalkmore · 23/10/2022 10:53

And anyone who wants to use the 'oh look the nasty Mumsnetters are blaming trans people for what this cis man did' argument against can get to fuck as well.

The point is, men will do whatever it takes to be able to carry out their disgusting crimes. Man is on one side of a fabric screen next to a womans face and that is enough for him to think 'yep, this is a great opportunity here'.

If a fabric screen with people literally on the other side is enough 'cover' for them, then I think that a huge gaping loophole in the law which would allow them to self identify as a woman and gain much easier access to vulnerable women, would certainly be enough 'cover'. Particularly when women are dismissed as disgusting bigots with the backing of hospitals if they don't accept a male as a woman on his say so.

ofwarren · 23/10/2022 10:55

I saw that on twitter last night and skimmed past it quickly when I realised what I was watching. So unbelievably upsetting.
Women are totally justified only wanting to be treated by other women, but as the case with the woman who was refused surgery the other day shows, we are vilified for choosing it!

lentilly · 23/10/2022 10:55

Why are twitter allowing it to be shared?!

blebbleb · 23/10/2022 10:56

This is disgusting. Think about how much trust you have to put into the doctors and surgeons at a time like this and someone can be capable of that! Fortunately I've found most people int be medical profession quite caring but I know there's some real sickos out there in any job.

ofwarren · 23/10/2022 10:57

lentilly · 23/10/2022 10:55

Why are twitter allowing it to be shared?!

They are probably not bothered. Tonnes of sexual content on twitter.
I wish I'd never seen it as I can't stop thinking about it. Those poor women 😢

OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 10:58

You don't mention it so this appears to be a hospital in Germany. I initially and stupidly thought by "orally raping" it meant he went down on the unconscious woman (violation enough) but no, it meant something else which probably everybody else realised right away. Having looked up the story there's details it lists I honestly feel too grossed out by to relay. Deeply sick and appears to be a pretty clear case from the evidence.

BordoisAgain · 23/10/2022 11:00

The other dimension to this is that nurses at the hospital suspected that this man was up to something but their concerns were ignored and they were threatened with the sack.

So once again, women raising the alarm that a man was abusing his position to diminish and harm women were told to shut up or face losing their livelihoods.

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Dillwyninthebath · 23/10/2022 11:03

I knowpeople will say it’s too late as it’s been downloaded but is there no way to report to get that video taken down on Twitter? Will they ignore the report? I know it’s futile maybe. After a bad day at my own work place hearing dehumanising talk about women I am rapidly losing my trust in medical spaces.

ofwarren · 23/10/2022 11:16

Dillwyninthebath · 23/10/2022 11:03

I knowpeople will say it’s too late as it’s been downloaded but is there no way to report to get that video taken down on Twitter? Will they ignore the report? I know it’s futile maybe. After a bad day at my own work place hearing dehumanising talk about women I am rapidly losing my trust in medical spaces.

I've reported it but its been on there since July, posted by a newspaper so I doubt anything will be done.

Fuckallthetories · 23/10/2022 11:23

absolutely horrifying. How did the rest of the team not notice anything?

OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 11:24

Dillwyninthebath · 23/10/2022 11:03

I knowpeople will say it’s too late as it’s been downloaded but is there no way to report to get that video taken down on Twitter? Will they ignore the report? I know it’s futile maybe. After a bad day at my own work place hearing dehumanising talk about women I am rapidly losing my trust in medical spaces.

Twitter banned me for saying that gender dysphoria in young girls correlated with autism (a known medical fact) but will cheerfully host all sorts of deviant porn and other such things.

Realistically that video is out there and she's reliant on human decency of people to not watch it (I haven't). It may get harder to find but is unlikely to ever go. An Internet that is controlled enough to remove this stuff 100% is also an Internet that is controlled enough you wouldn't be able to call this guy a man if he decided he was a woman.

SheWoreYellow · 23/10/2022 11:25

OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 10:58

You don't mention it so this appears to be a hospital in Germany. I initially and stupidly thought by "orally raping" it meant he went down on the unconscious woman (violation enough) but no, it meant something else which probably everybody else realised right away. Having looked up the story there's details it lists I honestly feel too grossed out by to relay. Deeply sick and appears to be a pretty clear case from the evidence.

Brazil isn’t it?

Soubriquet · 23/10/2022 11:30

OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 10:58

You don't mention it so this appears to be a hospital in Germany. I initially and stupidly thought by "orally raping" it meant he went down on the unconscious woman (violation enough) but no, it meant something else which probably everybody else realised right away. Having looked up the story there's details it lists I honestly feel too grossed out by to relay. Deeply sick and appears to be a pretty clear case from the evidence.

I was the same when I first read it.

It took me a moment to realise it was him putting his penis in her mouth and not him going down on her whilst in surgery.

Both are bad of course

JamSandle · 23/10/2022 11:36

This is why women need to be kept safe. Abusive men are EVERYWHERE.

OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 12:32

SheWoreYellow · 23/10/2022 11:25

Brazil isn’t it?

You're right. I searched online and confused this with a similar case in Germany approximately a year ago, at Sankt Elisabeth Hospital in Guetersloh.

This is a NEW case, in Brazil. Apologies for misleading anyone.

Horrific that it's happened twice (that we know of).

porridgecake · 23/10/2022 12:44

BordoisAgain · 23/10/2022 11:00

The other dimension to this is that nurses at the hospital suspected that this man was up to something but their concerns were ignored and they were threatened with the sack.

So once again, women raising the alarm that a man was abusing his position to diminish and harm women were told to shut up or face losing their livelihoods.

Whenever women women try to speak out about dangerous men they are silenced.

Dillwyninthebath · 23/10/2022 12:49

OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 11:24

Twitter banned me for saying that gender dysphoria in young girls correlated with autism (a known medical fact) but will cheerfully host all sorts of deviant porn and other such things.

Realistically that video is out there and she's reliant on human decency of people to not watch it (I haven't). It may get harder to find but is unlikely to ever go. An Internet that is controlled enough to remove this stuff 100% is also an Internet that is controlled enough you wouldn't be able to call this guy a man if he decided he was a woman.

Yes good point about the internet control.

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