We are 'anyone' now.

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Better or worse than 'people'?

Where was this?

I saw on Instagram about 1 in 4 people experiencing pregnancy loss and I wasn't sure if it meant mothers or their partners too. Language is so important, as in this case it could mean double the number of pregnancy losses depending on interpretation.

BBC News article on current Covid jabs.

So when couples announce ‘we are pregnant’ that actually means… both of them then?

Yes anyone! trans men can get pregnant too, non binary can also etc etc.

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Transmen can get pregnant, because transmen are women; so long as they haven't disabled their own bodies with drugging and surgeries.

Transwomen can never ever get pregnant, because they are men.

Hmm. The ‘anyone’ thing I used to see a lot over 20 years ago in school in regards to pregnancy and having babies. “Anyone who thinks they might be pregnant can go confidentially to mrs total judgey cow in the guidance suite” or “anyone who has had a baby is no longer eligible to travel for a half fare” yes that was a thing, “anyone who has had a baby should book their first smear test in six months”. It was to avoid referring to younger teenage mothers under 16 as “women” or even “mums”. A lot of my friends had to deal with that shit.

Transmen can get pregnant because they are still female. Non-binary people are as biologically male or female as the rest of us- whatever their internal feelings or chosen gender-expression or pronouns might be.
There are many ways to be in the world without denying evolution and biology. Female people don’t have to be ‘feminine’, male people don’t have to be ‘masculine’. Clothes/personalities/talents that don’t align with the socio-culturally expected behaviours and stereotypes associated with your sex don’t unsex you. We produce large gametes or small gametes. People with DSDs don’t produce a 3rd gamete. There is none. Only human females can get pregnant, no matter how anyone identifies.

Yes, quite, Men are still men. Women are still women

Trans men are NOT women. That's pretty insulting. The 'anyone' in the photo that OP posted, could be referring to non binary/ trans men people.

Using “anyone” does ensure that, well, anyone who’s pregnant knows they can get the jab. Means not having to waste resources dealing with allegations they’re denying care to &/or the existence of people who don’t wish to be referred to as female. Also means, crucially, it’s clear to pregnant teens - even with the dramatic reduction in teen pregnancy (Nuffield Trust) - that they are eligible, & does so without their having to seek further information.

It reads clunkily, but it protects teen mums & their babies - infant mortality rates are already 60% higher for the babies of teenaged mothers without this additional risk. Teen mums & their babies are a vulnerable minority & ensuring there’s no confusion over urgent health messaging is important.

Frustrating as it is, it also protects the babies of anyone who’d be stupid & selfish enough to kick up a fuss about not having a jab because they’re pregnant but not a woman so it’s not for them. And we all know that there are people who would.

Is that because they’re all female so therefore women? Or do you actually believe humans can opt out of their sex @anonbelle ?

Woman is a sex designation, not an idea in somebody's head. Therefore it is not insulting.

'Anyone' may include women and girls, but so does 'people'.

If including under-18s is the issue, say:
'Pregnant women and girls'.

Nitro then why not actually be inclusive (radical idea there)? Pregnant women and anyone else who is pregnant. Includes the stroppy ones but, more importantly, doesn't exclude women with learning difficulties or for whom English is not a first language. The NHS spent many years working on their language to ensure that it wasn't offensively dehumanising patients (the broken leg in bed three) and that it was clear to all. All of that now seems to be flung out of the window in an attempt to deny basic human biology (and I really hope that hasn't filtered through to practising medics and health professionals because they really need to know that stuff).

Lol at a pregnant transman not being a woman. Carrying and giving birth to a child is pretty solid confirmation of their sex!

Seriously? What is the problem with 'anyone' it's not a new usage.

Yeah. If only the pages for prostate cancer said anyone with a prostate. Then I’d accept that @GrammarTeacher amazingly those pages still use the word man…. No mention of transwomen or nonbinary males there

Using “anyone” does ensure that, well, anyone who’s pregnant knows they can get the jab. Means not having to waste resources dealing with allegations they’re denying care to &/or the existence of people who don’t wish to be referred to as female. Also means, crucially, it’s clear to pregnant teens - even with the dramatic reduction in teen pregnancy (Nuffield Trust) - that they are eligible, & does so without their having to seek further information.

And how would teens know they are even likely to get pregnant if nobody is allowed to refer to them as boys or girls any more?

'Class, listen up. We are going to talk about safe sex but unfortunately I cannot say which half of you are potentially likely to get pregnant otherwise I'd lose my job so good luck'.

Yes, this is the logical end result where language is mangled - children unsure who will experience periods, unsure about what's normal in terms of biological development and who can become pregnant.

Woman isn’t an insult.

But some people think that some other people may (pretend to be) offended by the sight of the word.

I suspect it’s payback for feminists back in the day protesting that ‘wo’man and mankind were sexist terms. No one took them seriously and laughed at them. So nothing was done about it.

it’s almost as if…

Biology is a fact, not an insult!

@Shakenotslurred sex and gender are two different things.

Yes I am aware. One is an immutable biological fact, the other is a made up load of crap. @anonbelle whats your point?