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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Citizen Go

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DaveDave · 08/10/2022 08:38

I was appalled at what happened to Caroline Farrow and donated to her legal fees via Citizen Go. After a bit of internet searching, which I should have done before, they look like an organisation whose values are dubious - with regards to abortion and other things. Has anyone heard of them?

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Carproblem · 08/10/2022 08:48

Yes they are a Christian American organisation so their campaigns reflect those values. But I don't really care, and still Support CF who is also a Christian.

Carproblem · 08/10/2022 08:50

Oh I just bothered Googling after I posted 😂 Apparently it was founded in Spain.
It's mainly used by Americans though

pattihews · 08/10/2022 09:48

DaveDave · 08/10/2022 08:38

I was appalled at what happened to Caroline Farrow and donated to her legal fees via Citizen Go. After a bit of internet searching, which I should have done before, they look like an organisation whose values are dubious - with regards to abortion and other things. Has anyone heard of them?

Aye, right.

Datun · 08/10/2022 09:56

pattihews · 08/10/2022 09:48

Aye, right.

IKR?

Lockheart · 08/10/2022 09:58

Yes they are dubious. They are vociferously anti-abortion and anti-same-sex marriage. If someone is using CG as their fundraising platform I will have to respectfully and regrettably decline.

LunaLights · 08/10/2022 10:02

I look at it through the lens of the TRAs / Genderologists piling on to ensure every crowd funding site removes GC fundraisers/crowd funding. At least this can collect donations that are freely given for Caroline’s specific cause.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 08/10/2022 10:04

I look at it through the lens of the TRAs / Genderologists piling on to ensure every crowd funding site removes GC fundraisers/crowd funding

absolutely

this is what happens when what more ‘mainstream’ (can’t think of another word) crowd funding sites refuse to host certain people

as with all things if you don’t like it there is no one forcing anyone to use it

noraclavicle · 08/10/2022 10:15

So this is how it works, sweet innocent DaveDave

Women speak up about the loss of single-sex spaces and an ideology that destroys children and young people’s bodies, brains and endocrine systems

Said women are targeted by TRAs, sometimes to the extent of pursuing civil cases, getting compliant police forces onto them, or getting them sacked from their jobs

Said women may set up fundraisers on the conventional crowdfunding sites, which are targeted by the TRAs and often shut down. The TRAs try to remove every avenue said women have to defend themselves.

If said women then use less conventional crowdfunding sites, the TRAs then attack the women for that too, despite being the ones responsible.

And they often come on here with their ‘just wonderings’ and ‘I’m as GC as they come’ to profess amazement and baffled disappointment.

AlisonDonut · 08/10/2022 10:16

Oh Christ on a bike are we to have a weekend of people coming on here telling us how a Christian woman who campaigns against abortion works for a Christian organisation who campaign against abortion and how bad it all is?

Jesus literally wept. We know. Many people agree with her and them. Many people don't.

She was arrested for a meme that she neither posted or designed.

pattihews · 08/10/2022 10:18

Appalled, appalled I tell you.

Cut off the oxygen supply to this thread. Ignore, move on.

BirdinaHedge · 08/10/2022 14:28

I really want to help Ms Farrow ( @snapealways ) but I am concerned about donating to CitizenGO, as I think their work in various African countries is quite damaging to women's lives there.

Is there any way we can be assured that if we donate to help support Ms Farrow in facing an attack from the Thought Police, the funds will go ONLY to her support fund?

JanieAllen · 08/10/2022 14:29

could someone dm me the link as I'd like to donate?

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 08/10/2022 15:13

BirdinaHedge · 08/10/2022 14:28

I really want to help Ms Farrow ( @snapealways ) but I am concerned about donating to CitizenGO, as I think their work in various African countries is quite damaging to women's lives there.

Is there any way we can be assured that if we donate to help support Ms Farrow in facing an attack from the Thought Police, the funds will go ONLY to her support fund?

I can't even tell what's parody and what's not on this board any more 😁

BirdinaHedge · 08/10/2022 15:34

Why so, @ToGanymedeAndTitan ?

SnapeAlways · 08/10/2022 16:10

I would love to tell you how many thousands my legal fees have come to after 3 vexatious claims but I cannot, not least because it would give the TRAs a cheap thrill.

Every single lawyer I have used is threatened and reported to their regulators. They are always exonerated but it’s just hassle that nobody needs.

I am dealing with someone who tries to use every procedural loophole in the book to try and escape costs liability and does everything they can to stop defendants from being able to mount their own defence.

I can assure people that there’s been no surplus at all and that every penny is going to my cause.

I was quoted £500 plus VAT (Sorry I said on Twitter it was £750 but that’s the total figure) for a solicitor following my arrest.

I am currently defending a third civil claim, issuing a counter claim, I now have potential criminal charges and we will be taking legal action against the police: we have already requested custody suite footage. I now have my civil solicitors and criminal ones.

These things are not cheap.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/10/2022 16:13

noraclavicle · 08/10/2022 10:15

So this is how it works, sweet innocent DaveDave

Women speak up about the loss of single-sex spaces and an ideology that destroys children and young people’s bodies, brains and endocrine systems

Said women are targeted by TRAs, sometimes to the extent of pursuing civil cases, getting compliant police forces onto them, or getting them sacked from their jobs

Said women may set up fundraisers on the conventional crowdfunding sites, which are targeted by the TRAs and often shut down. The TRAs try to remove every avenue said women have to defend themselves.

If said women then use less conventional crowdfunding sites, the TRAs then attack the women for that too, despite being the ones responsible.

And they often come on here with their ‘just wonderings’ and ‘I’m as GC as they come’ to profess amazement and baffled disappointment.

Great comment nora. It needs pinning to the top of this board for the attention of all the regular "I'm as GC as it comes but..." ploppers.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 08/10/2022 16:17

SnapeAlways · 08/10/2022 16:10

I would love to tell you how many thousands my legal fees have come to after 3 vexatious claims but I cannot, not least because it would give the TRAs a cheap thrill.

Every single lawyer I have used is threatened and reported to their regulators. They are always exonerated but it’s just hassle that nobody needs.

I am dealing with someone who tries to use every procedural loophole in the book to try and escape costs liability and does everything they can to stop defendants from being able to mount their own defence.

I can assure people that there’s been no surplus at all and that every penny is going to my cause.

I was quoted £500 plus VAT (Sorry I said on Twitter it was £750 but that’s the total figure) for a solicitor following my arrest.

I am currently defending a third civil claim, issuing a counter claim, I now have potential criminal charges and we will be taking legal action against the police: we have already requested custody suite footage. I now have my civil solicitors and criminal ones.

These things are not cheap.

Can I say thank you to everything you are doing also thank you to @DaveDave for drawing my attention to where I can donate

DaveDave · 08/10/2022 16:55

God, why am I getting so much hate?!!!

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ItsLateHumpty · 08/10/2022 17:00

Oooo to which god are you imploring? You might wanna check their labels and facts and beliefs first lest you be caught unawares and support the wrong deity.

DaveDave · 08/10/2022 17:05

@SnapeAlways I donated a sum, and I hope it helps, what you went through was wrong.

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DaveDave · 08/10/2022 17:12

I guess you all think I'm a TRA. I'm not. I donated, I am GC, and though I don't post on Mumsnet I do follow the relevant news on Twitter.

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TirisfalPumpkin · 08/10/2022 17:14

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titchy · 08/10/2022 17:15

DaveDave · 08/10/2022 17:12

I guess you all think I'm a TRA. I'm not. I donated, I am GC, and though I don't post on Mumsnet I do follow the relevant news on Twitter.

So why suddenly post on MN and scold its members then? Hmm It's a pretty standard TRA modus operandi.

pattihews · 08/10/2022 17:20

DaveDave · 08/10/2022 16:55

God, why am I getting so much hate?!!!

It's not hate, DaveDave. It's not even exasperation, it's just weary boredom with yet more warnings that we'll taint our purity. We have no shits left to give.

DaveDave · 08/10/2022 17:21

It was a question I had, that was all. I'm new-ish to all this to be honest, and although I feel very strongly about it I don't know everything, and I'm trying to learn. Sorry if I sounded scolding, it wasn't intentional. I just felt conflicted as I also believe in a woman's right to abort.I follow CF on Twitter and admire what she does. And it's a valid point, which I also didn't know, if she's been shut down on other crowd funding sites but the options are limited.

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