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Spiked on Eddie Izzard

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WandaWomblesaurus · 03/10/2022 07:07

www.spiked-online.com/2022/10/02/eddie-izzard-was-born-male-and-he-will-die-male/

"And yet even after that episode, even after his presence in a female bathroom made girls scream, still Izzard invades women’s spaces."

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/10/2022 11:37

I suspect the photo caption writers at the Daily Mail are trolling.
Their gushing descriptions (usually used for the young reality celebs from shows like Love Island) highlights the grotesquely carnivalesque aspects of Izzard’s transition.

They do the same for Jessica Alves formerly Rodrigo who was on Big Brother years ago and is clearly mentally ill. It's quite uncomfortable to read.

Unlike that, I don't feel sorry for Izzard though.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/10/2022 11:38

and yes, I agree, Brendan is excellent on this - his Shon Faye book review is a thing of beauty:

So is his recent one about Travis Alabanza

https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/08/21/the-dangerous-narcissism-of-the-trans-lobby/amp/

Heliotroper · 03/10/2022 12:15

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FunnyTalks · 03/10/2022 12:23

Perhaps Eddie has had, or it about to have, bottom surgery? As I suppose I can see that the result of that might possibly lead a person to head towards the ladies instead.

Has EI mentioned this at all? Is there a crowdfunder or something?

The assumption that transwomen no longer had a penis was a large component of earlier acceptance and sympathy for transwomen from women.

I find it odd how this subject is barely mentioned in relation to middle aged late transitioning transwomen. How can there be phrases like "yeet the teet" for young transboys, but nothing for older transwomen? If anything you'd think there would be more focus on this, as penises are so quintessentially male. Whereas overweight males often have breasts.

TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 12:37

These threads are attracting a lot of deletions.

Clearly we are not yet at the point where we can be as forthright on FWR as Brendan can be for Spiked!

applesandpears33 · 03/10/2022 12:44

@TheClogLady

"Under Zir’s Eye" 😀

YouSirNeighMmmm · 03/10/2022 13:14

Worriedaboutethics · 03/10/2022 09:32

@NecessaryScene

the issue is what you type or quote is as bigoted as men who think women don’t deserve women only places. That’s a shame .

there are clearly men who pretend to be trans to get off on something and there are clearly trans people who are nothing like that at all.

"there are clearly trans people who are nothing like that at all."

Evidence?

YouSirNeighMmmm · 03/10/2022 13:19

TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 12:37

These threads are attracting a lot of deletions.

Clearly we are not yet at the point where we can be as forthright on FWR as Brendan can be for Spiked!

It would be interesting to know how many on this board show restraint when posting, compared to what they would like to say were they in a censorship-free zone. It would be interesting to know how many would wish to be incredibly blunt with their language, and how many of them, were you to go back 5 years, would not have dreamt they'd end up in a place where "be kind" has been so throroughly abandoned.

Batiqueattic · 03/10/2022 13:22

One man's fiction trumps many women's reality.

Amarette · 03/10/2022 13:27

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TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 13:56

YouSirNeighMmmm · 03/10/2022 13:19

It would be interesting to know how many on this board show restraint when posting, compared to what they would like to say were they in a censorship-free zone. It would be interesting to know how many would wish to be incredibly blunt with their language, and how many of them, were you to go back 5 years, would not have dreamt they'd end up in a place where "be kind" has been so throroughly abandoned.

It’s definitely been a journey.

I’ve gone from being shocked at FWR comments stating terribly selfish and radical things such as

‘this is not a woman problem and women are not obliged to solve it for you’

and

‘TWAM’

to constantly holding my poisonous tongue lest The Eyes report me to MNTowers.

Perhaps it’s correlation rather than causation but now that I’m menopausal-ish my Field of Fucks is most Definitely Barren and I find the traditional Mumsnet-ism of ‘ODFOD’ (‘Oh Do Fuck Off Dear’) to be of ever-increasing relevance.

Any women who is still in the thick of her inner battle between ‘Be Kind’ and ‘Cock Off’ should have a read of this 2018 thread:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3412053-Mumsnet-FWR-Guide-to-De-Programming-Yourself-From-Self-Harming-Kindness

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ColeensBoot · 03/10/2022 14:14

"my field of fucks is most definitely barren"
My quote of 2022

ColeensBoot · 03/10/2022 14:18

Cor that's a cracking article.
More like that please from blokes.

Wake up people! (speaking to the men who think this does not concern them)

Sonnex · 03/10/2022 15:55

Yes lots of deletions and warnings about the three letter acronym that cannot be named. It's a fine line for the MN eyes to tread I suppose as someone like EI probably has resources to give them grief. Bit sad though in the current climate. Doesn't change what women know or think about men like him either. And there are lots of alternative forums now where people can speak more freely on the subject, which is gratifying.

ArabellaScott · 03/10/2022 16:22

Superb article. I'd like to quote several lines of it, but I'd be deleted.

Which rather illustrates how extreme the position is that we're in.

Anyone who's posted here a while learns how to swerve certain words and phrases.

'Womanhood is real. It’s a biological, social, relational and cultural reality of which Izzard has zero experience.'

Also, thanks for 'malicious compliance', TheClogLady, that's perfect.

ArabellaScott · 03/10/2022 16:23

Yes, Sonnex, we may be constrained here but more and more I hear people saying the simple blunt truths we're not allowed to state.

SidewaysOtter · 03/10/2022 17:02

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 03/10/2022 17:12

I mostly frequent style and beauty so I’m going to use that as an excuse to be superficial for a moment

when dressed in stereotypically male clothes EI is generally pretty en fleek

different kettle of fish when he’s in girl mode. I find that quite interesting. Maybe looking good isn’t the point when he’s dressing that way?

itsnotdeep · 03/10/2022 17:27

That's a brilliant article. I agree with him that it's just so ridiculous that he can be cancelled and we would be deleted for stating something so fucking obvious and true.

pattihews · 03/10/2022 17:27

His predilection for heeled boots surely tell you all you need to know?

MorningPlatypus · 03/10/2022 17:33

I've been on and off this site for over a decade and the cotton ceiling completely changed my opinion of gender ideology.

People may stop others from saying what we really feel. But they can't stop our thoughts.

eddiemairswife · 03/10/2022 17:47

Eddie Izzard looks grotesque dressed up as a woman. He probably needs help from a psychiatrist.

Mochudubh · 03/10/2022 17:59

I couldn't think who that photo reminded me of. Then it came to me.

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LondonWolf · 03/10/2022 18:05

Love Brendan O'Neill and love Spiked. They're one of the few media outlets speaking up about this nonsense. Weekly Spiked podcast is well worth a listen too. I'm not sure Brendan is cancelled is he? They can't cancel you if are unrepentant and have your own relatively untouchable outlet for your work.

TheClogLady · 03/10/2022 18:11

Mochudubh · 03/10/2022 17:59

I couldn't think who that photo reminded me of. Then it came to me.

Will I go to Parenting website Purgatory for this?

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