Spiked on Eddie Izzard

[WandaWomblesaurus]

www.spiked-online.com/2022/10/02/eddie-izzard-was-born-male-and-he-will-die-male/

"And yet even after that episode, even after his presence in a female bathroom made girls scream, still Izzard invades women’s spaces."

He makes a good point about social norms and how Eddie has basically been transgressing them since his early 20s. In a 'I remember exactly where I was when X happened', I vividly remember hearing Izzard reading his autobiography on radio 4's Book of the Week and stopping in my tracks as he recounted being confronted by those young girls in Highbury Fields women's toilets. The way he positioned himself as the victim in that story shocked me then and it shocks me now.

Izzard does not seem to believe women should have boundaries.

Fantastic stuff.

This is the trans ideology summed up – everything, the entire physical, social and scientific world, must be sacrificed to the therapeutic needs of men who think they’re women. Sure, drunk blokes of old knew a woman’s bathroom was a no-go zone – but today’s blokes drunk on their own narcissistic and lunatic vision of themselves as ‘women’ recognise no such physical boundaries. How dare a social norm interfere with my gender expression?

Very brave.
Is Brendan O'neil going to get cancelled now?

The thing that has struck me about this whole episode is that Eddie would have been safe using the correct facilities for his sex at this event, which is what makes the territroy marking / dominance asserting aspect of this so very clear to observers.

It made me wonder what was going on in Izzard’s brain as he took a leak or applied more blusher or whatever he was doing in that women-only space.
Come come Mr O'Neill, why so coy? We all know men are getting a sexual thrill from being in the ladies loo and breaking boundaries.

We all know that men who fantasise that they are women go into women’s bathrooms and changing rooms, pissing on the seat, freaking out young girls, and in some cases exposing their tumescent penises to unwitting women. What we used to call ‘indecent exposure’ but we now call ‘trans rights’. (My emphasis)

This is such a good point

the oft trotted out reason for men intimidating women and exposing themselves to women by using the women’s toilets is that they wouldn’t be safe in the gents

what was Eddie’s reason here?

Brendan O'Neill is well and truly cancelled since forever.

Great article. He's great on all this stuff - mainly thanks to the efforts of Kellie-Jay Keen (she's been on his podcast quite a few times).

@NecessaryScene

the issue is what you type or quote is as bigoted as men who think women don’t deserve women only places. That’s a shame .

there are clearly men who pretend to be trans to get off on something and there are clearly trans people who are nothing like that at all.

What does this even mean?

all ‘transwomen’ are men, full stop, the end

when they use the loo they should use the gents or campaign for a third space

Great article. I hope it is widely read.

Oof. Brutal. But glorious. Thanks Wanda.

there are clearly men who pretend to be trans to get off on something and there are clearly trans people who are nothing like that at all.

Yes, and that quote wasn't inferring anything about "to get off" (although the rest of the article did). It was directly addressing anyone, including your "nothing like that".

Why do their "therapeutic needs" outweigh everyone else's?

The reason those who might "get off" can enter is because they're piggy-backing on some leeway initially given to your favoured trans's "therapeutic needs".

So there's an initial direct violation by your "nothing like that"'s, which for a while was tolerable, but now the consequences of that violation have got way out of hand, with loads of "definitely like that"s taking advantage too, on top of an increased sense of entitlement from everyone involved, and we can see why it was a mistake to let that initial violation slide.

Worriedaboutethics · Today 09:32
@Necessary the issue is what you type or quote is as bigoted as men who think women don’t deserve women only places. That’s a shame .

there are clearly men who pretend to be trans to get off on something and there are clearly trans people who are nothing like that at all.

BUT Necessary wasn’t referring to individuals, but to the ideology, as she makes clear. It’s the ideology which dictates a takeover of women’s spaces rather than campaigning for men’s spaces to be safe for transwomen, or for third spaces as Bernard says

And at this point any transwoman who wants to claim they're "nothing like that" should be seeing what is happening with horror, and ceasing from making any further claim on female facilities, even if they have in the past.

If they don't do so, they are now complicit. Maybe they might not have realised the harm they were causing in the past, but they no longer have an excuse.

Women are politely asking them to leave, and they have to respect that. If they don't, they very much are "like that".

The male transitioners who ‘aren’t like that’ are the handful who have spoken about how damaging the current Trans Rights movement is, Miranda Yardley, Fionne Orlander, Jenn Smith, Seven Hex, Corinna Cohn, Leanne Mills et al.

They don’t trample women’s boundaries by using women’s facilities, they inconvenience themselves rather than cause us discomfort.

Ironic, isn’t it? That the transwomen who are MOST trustworthy are the ones we are LEAST likely to encounter in a toilet or gym changing room.

But that’s a side effect of their respectful understanding of women’s rights and needs versus Izzard’s total disregard.

I would like to elaborate on that disregard but I might be smited by MNHQ if our shadowy overlords (overladies? Overnonbinaryfolk?) file complaints about us women daring to both assert our boundaries and explain why they are necessary.

Under Zir’s Eye.

(and yes, I agree, Brendan is excellent on this - his Shon Faye book review is a thing of beauty: www.spiked-online.com/2021/09/03/the-transgender-delusion/ )

My viewpoint is different to yours.

I really don't care how he is dressed.

The media should not comment on how anyone is dressed, male or female.

My only issue with Eddie, is that he is a male using Female spaces. That is a massive red flag. No decent male born person would do this even if they think they are a woman.

Yeah but I think the point is by any objective measure he doesn’t look ‘fabulous’ when trussed up in fishnets etc

why are people in the media saying that he does?

Great article. No punches pulled. How far we've come from tentatively suggesting that perhaps something wasn't quite right about men using women's facilities.

I presume someone will be along in a minute to wave something dodgy Brendan O'Neill once wrote and call him a fascist and us fascists for reading him, but that ship has sailed. We are no longer in the purity race, no longer in fear of contamination by association.

I like the below from the article

And that includes the freedom to correctly gender Mr Izzard as male, the freedom of women to have their own spaces, and the freedom of teenage girls to tell blokes like Eddie to fuck off out of their toilets.

I suspect the photo caption writers at the Daily Mail are trolling.
Their gushing descriptions (usually used for the young reality celebs from shows like Love Island) highlights the grotesquely carnivalesque aspects of Izzard’s transition.

They must be pissing their pants with laughter writing stuff like this:

(Click on image for the text part)

(ps, MNHQ, I’m not using ‘grotesque’ and ‘carnivalesque’ as insults against Eddie, but am making reference to the terms as they are used in literary and artistic criticism - just thought I’d add an explainer rather than risk a misunderstanding! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivalesque
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grotesque_body)

They must know what they are doing here? What’s that phrase for when you do your job in exactly the manner you are told to do it but in a way that communicates your obvious scorn for the task, whilst making it impossible for anyone to discipline you?

‘malicious compliance’?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_compliance