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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

SEX is the correct word

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Lovelyricepudding · 11/09/2022 23:44

I saw a comment earlier about use of the words sex and gender and how gender used to be a reasonable synonym and sex just results in teenage dissolving in mirth. I couldn't find the comment again. But the idea was we should find a word to replace sex.

Sex is the correct word because it links to sexual intercourse which is part of sexual reproduction. We need this word precisely because of the connertations behind the sniggering. Sex (male/female) is primarily about reproduction - it is our reproductive roles that govern our bodies and how we are treated. Any other words obscures this. It is also a word with consistent meanings right across phyla.

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Lovelyricepudding · 13/09/2022 14:43

The trouble is, sex means 2 different things: the reproduction meaning and the male/female meaning

But these aren't different things. Sex is about reproduction, male/female is about reproduction. It cannot be separated from reproduction. The reason women are discriminated against to linked to those reproctive roles. Gender is the mechanism by which we a discriminated against due to our reproductive roles (sex).

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cormorant5 · 13/09/2022 22:20

@ErrolTheDragon Thanks for the Poetry link. It's the cutlery for fish idea that winds me up IRL.

FemaleAndLearning · 13/09/2022 23:41

FOJN · 12/09/2022 06:32

Flat you are not alone. I listen to lots of interviews and podcasts via headphones and every time I hear gender instead of sex I say its "SEX, Sex is the word you're looking for". With noise cancelling headphones and the doors and windows open the neighbours must think I'm demented.

"Gender based violence", is a particular pet hate, it implies that the performance of sex stereotypes makes women more vulnerable to male violence. We've campaigned for years to stop judges and barristers using what women were wearing to excuse male sexual violence so it feels like a retrograde step to meekly accept the term "gender" based violence.

You may like this FOI I came across where a council chose to use gender based violence instead of sex based violence. www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/decision_to_use_the_campaign_tit

A woman on there has also do e FOIs on gender based violence for every university.

PMAmostofthetime · 13/09/2022 23:43

Flatmountains · 12/09/2022 02:11

I'm dreadful. Whenever I see the word gender used incorrectly, I always say "sex" out loud. Bit embarrassing; I once did it at dd's school.

I agree you don't have a Sex Scan or a Sex reveal.

People can choose to identify as a gender or not. It's not compulsory.

LK1972 · 13/09/2022 23:47

justgotosleepffs · 12/09/2022 21:32

The trouble is, sex means 2 different things: the reproduction meaning and the male/female meaning.I cant help thinkinf a lot of problems would be solved if the English language used 2 separate words for these. Because people then use the word gender for the sole purpose of avoiding saying sex, and that has opened up a minefield of shit

Hmm, in Russian the word for sex, as in male/female is the same as the word for 'floor'. Hasn't stopped Russian transwomen from claiming they actually are women.

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