"People who bleed" - new guidance about periods

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www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11091543/NHS-advice-periods-goes-woke-Advice-refers-people-bleed.html

So should I be worried if a young man starts to bleed? It's normal right?
When will our son's start their periods?

That was why I used the word 'regularly'.

But I was being sarcastic. Using the words "women and girls", and adding "transmen" (or whatever the current permissible term is) if absolutely necessary, would be better than using "people", which in all normal speech includes males.

Thanks for responding @Chersfrozenface I got 'terfyn' off a road sign, so I was fairly sure that was accurate. 100% agree about Google translate.

No circumlocution for "female", no matter how degrading, is ultimately going to be acceptable to those promoting this worldview. Suppose women were to say, ok, fair enough, we don't want to exclude anyone, let's start using "people who bleed" to discuss the shared biology of women and trans men (formerly known as female biology). Women would then be told it is exclusionary to focus on people who bleed. If women were to continue to use the term, they would be told that it must include biological males who identify as people who bleed.

Rather than having a single euphemism for "female", we are told to refer to each female biological function separately (people who menstruate, pregnant people, people who lactate, people who go through the menopause, people with a cervix etc.), making it impossible to talk about female biology as a whole. This is the objective: to stop us talking about female biology as a single phenomenon, or drawing attention to the shared physical experience of females and its importance in our oppression. Which is why no consistent euphemism for female has emerged or ever will emerge from gender identity activism.

This is not just a language game. It's actually dangerous. Fragmenting our language for female biology impairs our understanding of our own bodies, especially for younger women and girls. Women will suffer as a result, not only medically but also psychologically and politically.

Did any of you listen to the bbc prog 28ish days later? Had one episode featuring a transboy (ie female person) who talked about how shocked and upset they were when they started their period. Sounded like the people around were being so careful and caring about affirming their gender identity that they forgot to confirm their biology.

Lack of clarity and honesty about who is female and what that means is bad for everyone, however they identify. Not to mention people with poor (or frankly normal) English.

I thought we could have female even if we can’t have woman. But no.

And their sex would be…?

I post this link regularly. It's an excellent paper which clearly discusses the harms of euphemistic language and the importance of using sex based language.

www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgwh.2022.818856/full

Here's the title:

Effective Communication About Pregnancy, Birth, Lactation, Breastfeeding and Newborn Care: The Importance of Sexed Language

A couple of years ago we had an organisation come in to do a talk on puberty and sex to Year 7 and the woman delivering it used torturously degendered language to the point where the children were confused.

Did you (and genuinely not being snarky about this question) not feel the need to intervene and stop the session at the point it became obvious how confusing the language was?

I’d like to think, although not been in such a situation so I’m probably talking through my backside, that I’d kick the idiots out or, at least, start sticking my hand up during the session and start asking some very pointed questions for clarification.

All seems a bit " misery loves company " doesn't it.

A small group of people are confused and upset about their bodies so everyone else has to be.

I thought transgender men are males who are trans and say they're women. Some posts here refer to them having female anatomy?

You would be forgiven for thinking that. But no, in gender identity ideology terms, a "trans man" is a biologically female person who identifies as a man.

I am so confused now and I thought I understood this, I though transmen were female, but transgender men were male.

Trans women were born male. Trans men were born female.

We need better descriptors really. Or just stick to sex and leave the whole ‘gender’ thing out of it. It’s as sensible as birth signs or cheese preference.

I though transmen were female, but transgender men were male.

The two terms are interchangeable.

Oh dear, you are so wrong. About cheese that is. Cheese preferences are perfectly logical and based on fact not feelings.

this.
it is not people who bleed. It is women and girls who menstruate.

I’ll just repeat it one more time:

if you bleed from your vagina post menopause you MUST check for cancer (my mum’s best friend left it too long, sadly)

if you bleed from your vagina after sex abuse you may have an injury.

if you bleed from your vagina when pregnant you may have a miscarriage, molar pregnancy or placenta previa so must see a doctor.

not «bleed all over Wales» for fucks sake.

I don’t know… those who like smoked cheese are clearly nuts and have exceptionally bad taste…

Lol. Indeed. This is an easy posturing for our Welsh Assembly Government who find it easier to trample all over women's language than sort out employment problems in rural areas.

Temporaryname158 still hasn't responded, funny that

I do know that only females have periods and that gender is just a theory, so maybe I'll give the trans labels that don't make sense a miss for now.

More absolute nonsense and it makes me angry because tax payers money are being wasted on this absolute rubbish.

Having been very confused and worried by primary school sex ed descriptions of bleeding for five days, I've explained to my children that a period looks like blood but isn't, and doesn't mean that you're hurt or bleeding, so they'd be baffled as to who "people who bleed" might be.

Anyone remember this?

Well, the wording has been changed, to an extent.

E.g. from the home page "We want to empower girls and young people that have periods as well all those around them to be period proud, so join the movement and let's normalise periods together."

bloodybrilliant.wales/

BTW, the criticism of the original material was covered on the Wales Online and
Metro websites, which astonished me, frankly.

I do wish I'd known how to archive the original Bloody Brilliant website, though. For the purposes of comparison (and derision).

Menstruating isn't bleeding. It's the shedding of the uterine wall. Bleeding is blood escaping from the circulatory system from damaged blood vessels. They aren't the same thing. There is blood in your period but it's not all blood, it's largely sloughed off endometrial cells and it's not actually bleeding.

Well that seems better cher