I know all about alpha male bosses… I was one until I transitioned - Times

[Igneococcus]

Explaining mysogyny to us all (well, to those managing to read through the self-indulgent waffle):

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/509f88ca-126b-11ed-b5dc-213f5c972cc4?shareToken=159e97762f849566c7f9366b2aefc111

[Lovelyricepudding]

A techance firm you say? Now there''s a surprise 🤔

[Lovelyricepudding]

^tech

[ClaudiusTheGod]

There are an increasing number of these middle-aged types in the City, walking around in red lipstick and short black dresses. I often wonder if they think they are passing.

[YetAnotherSpartacus]

Love the bit about how cis norm het ( that is, real men) are really yearning to have intercourse with this person but are too scared?shy? Or something to actually get down to it.

I'm just glad it's their bloody problem.

And I wonder how the ex-wife and children really are.

[WeeBisom]

These articles, where a man becomes a woman and 'discovers' sexism, really piss me off. It's like women aren't to be believed and trusted until a man experiences it for himself. And that picture! Would a female CEO be treated seriously if she posed with her legs crossed, hand on knee, head tilting and an exaggerated pout? What strikes me about these stories is how similar they all are. The same tropes come up time and time again, right down to the stories of trying on the underwear of female relatives. It's almost like there is something all these people have in common which causes them to behave in such similar ways...

[Slothtoes]

I’m not quite sure what this person is saying the difference is between their original take on
it all that they discuss in the article and the descriptor that they currently use is. The interviewer seemed rather incurious.

And similarly, the rewriting of the wife and children into peripheral figures seems very wrong- surely better to own the situation and admit that the ‘family’ transition Natalie refers to isn’t (or shouldn’t be) just about Natalie’s own birth family and their experiences and views.

[PermanentTemporary]

Felt sick, didn't finish. Got to be a nicer person than they come across as.

The unchanged belief in them that women and men are so hugely different in every way to each other that they need technical ambassadors across the crevasse, but that actual physical reality and politics are irrelevant to that. It's all about emotions, hormones and passing. If they want to be fucked by a man it must be because they are a female.

Homophobic, sexist dads have a lot to answer for. Wish this person could see my therapist, but no doubt they would dismiss her insights as totally irrelevant to their sooooo female life.

[FrippEnos]

What is interesting to me is the disappearances of their wife and 3 children.

And also that they appear to be gay.

[EmbarrassingHadrosaurus]

What is interesting to me is the disappearances of their wife and 3 children.

Women and children are rarely more than supporting actors or props to some people.

Got to be a nicer person than they come across as.

I'd agree that they'd have to if they'd needed to navigate the world as a woman for most of early life. Being an alpha male led to tremendous success earlier in life and now it's a plot twist hook for more career success. Much easier to sell the quick fix of a 'gender whisperer' than to address the unglamorous root and branch reform need to resolved persistent sexism, ableism, racism etc.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

A techance firm you say? Now there''s a surprise

You'll be even more astonished to learn that not one tech CEO trans lady, but two feature in this heartwarming tale:

Around this nadir she saw on Facebook an old college frat-boy friend and another tech CEO, Morgan, had come out as a trans woman.

[TheGreatATuin]

The Times used to have Davina(?) trotting out this stuff in a column.
I'm pretty willing to bet its because they get a lot of flak for their otherwise excellent coverage on gender issues.
They're told they need to platform more trans voices and I can just see someone over there nodding their head and saying slowly, "Yes, let's do exactly that."

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

They're told they need to platform more trans voices and I can just see someone over there nodding their head and saying slowly, "Yes, let's do exactly that."

Yes that did occur to me too.

[OldCrone]

The Times used to have Davina(?) trotting out this stuff in a column.

I think that was the Telegraph. David/Diana Thomas.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

The Times used to have Davina(?) trotting out this stuff in a column.

I think it was the Telegraph though if we are thinking of the same column.

www.telegraph.co.uk/david-thomas/

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

X post with OldCrone

[TheGreatATuin]

I think that was the Telegraph. David/Diana Thomas
Oh, I think you're right. That's who I was thinking of.

[Ohsugarhoneyicetea]

Brilliant, the more light shined on the narcissism and misogyny behind this behaviour the better.

[DamnAKarmaDingDong]

She created Translator, software that offers diversity and inclusion training tools for businesses. Largely because the exercises are virtual rather than in person, it allows employees to be more honest in their responses. Companies can see how many staff are unhappy with their culture and alter accordingly, while employees are trained to understand and accommodate other perspectives.

So are these 'virtual' responses anonymised, or just typed/recorded rather than spoken aloud in a meeting? Because the former allows honesty without fear of witch-huntery but the latter surely just provides saveable evidence of wrongthink? Either way, the phrase 'employees are trained to understand and accommodate other perspectives' isn't exactly reassuring.

And the pouting. Always with the Mick Jagger pouting.

[doesthatmakesense]

@YetAnotherSpartacus

Why is it that first memories of wanting to be female are all about Mummy's clothes and not 'cooking like Mummy' and 'cleaning like Mummy' (or doing whatever women's work is appropriate? And it's always bloody underwear.

Yes!!! This!!!

[BootsAndRoots]

@ClaudiusTheGod

There are an increasing number of these middle-aged types in the City, walking around in red lipstick and short black dresses. I often wonder if they think they are passing.

I often wonder whether they care about passing. They know they're lying and they know everyone else is lying to them, but it's the thrill of being treated like a woman.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

I often wonder whether they care about passing. They know they're lying and they know everyone else is lying to them, but it's the thrill of being treated like a woman.

This.

[PermanentTemporary]

I've read accounts of a lot of gay men who remember their older female relatives and friends with such affection and perception of their real and complex lives; not that being gay gives them a magical window into femaleness but they write about love and collective solidarity with people whose lives were constrained by outside forces and misogyny.

In this story, a hot bloke teaches Natalie that she's not a secret crossdresser, but someone who can cross dress in public and get even more of a thrill. Spot the different perception.

I do think the Times publishes these stories partly because they are commercial (nice advert for the Fitler Club) but also because it gets us frothing and clicking.

Hope Nathalie's exwife is ok and ideally unaware of this publication.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

I guess we can't say much more, but being treated like their idea of a woman is the goal.

[EmbarrassingHadrosaurus]

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I guess we can't say much more, but being treated like their idea of a woman is the goal.

Except for being turned down for funding or finding themselves lonely…

[SpiderVersed]

His poor wife. I hope she got an eye-watering divorce settlement.