For any LGBT+ people out there, how do you feel about celebrities such as Jameela Jamil or Demi Lovato claiming to be “queer” or non-binary?
Jameela Jamil is in a long-term relationship with a man.
Demi Lovato, as far as I know, is also in a heterosexual relationship and presents in a feminine way. She previously used they/them pronouns because she wasn’t sure which toilet to use - she didn’t feel male or female, you see - but now she feels more “feminine” again, she has gone back to she/her.
Please can someone explain: in what way are these women queer???
Doesn’t it annoy actual gay or trans people when these non-entities try to jump on the bandwagon just to generate publicity for themselves?
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
“Queer tourists”
GenuinelyCurious123 · 04/08/2022 19:52
DaisyWaldron · 04/08/2022 19:58
Most bisexuals in long-term relationships have a partner of the opposite sex. It's statistically far more likely than having a long term partner of the same sex. That doesn't make them heterosexual, any more than having a same-sex partner makes them lesbian or gay. And if you think that being bisexual in a mixed-sex relationship is the same as being straight, try reading some of the threads here where women discuss their attitudes to dating a bisexual man.
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DaisyWaldron · 04/08/2022 19:58
Most bisexuals in long-term relationships have a partner of the opposite sex. It's statistically far more likely than having a long term partner of the same sex. That doesn't make them heterosexual, any more than having a same-sex partner makes them lesbian or gay. And if you think that being bisexual in a mixed-sex relationship is the same as being straight, try reading some of the threads here where women discuss their attitudes to dating a bisexual man.
GenuinelyCurious123 · 04/08/2022 20:37
No, I don’t want to have a cheap laugh (it’s actually not funny at all) or be bitchy. I want to understand. From my point of view, I see 2 wealthy famous women claiming a label that doesn’t appear to belong to them and co-opting the struggles of actual gay or trans people in order to garner publicity for themselves, which is kind of disgraceful.
Elsiebear90 · 04/08/2022 20:14
Jamila Jamil conveniently came out as “queer” when she faced backlash for her role as a judge in a ballroom competition, Demi Levato just seems like an attention seeker. Queer is an extremely vague word which can mean almost anything these days, and unfortunately it does benefit a lot of people to opt into “oppression” (which is quite easy now with the million and one different gender identities and new “sexualities”).
So yes as a lesbian I take them “coming out as queer” with a pinch of salt until I see any evidence they are anything other than heterosexual, I also object to the term queer in general.
DeliaTookATumble · 04/08/2022 21:00
The trouble is, I might say, as an individual, “I wear trousers and can brandish an axe, I’m not typically feminine.” But society still puts the labels on us all. It starts at babyhood, pink and blue, little Princess vs little monster. That binary is still there, it’s everywhere. it’s insidious.
Maybe, just maybe, the declarations of famous and wealthy people letting us know they’re non-binary will help. Maybe it will start a conversation. Maybe things will change at a more important and visible level than me using ‘men’s’ radox.
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