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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman beaten up by rugby player in Italy

124 replies

RoyalCorgi · 03/08/2022 08:01

Have other people been following the story of the British couple in Italy? The male partner died suddenly in a hotel room and the female partner was taken to hospital with severe injuries. All the early reports said the police thought it was a "sex game gone wrong". That immediately set off alarm bells for me - what kind of sex game could go so badly wrong that a woman was very badly injured?

The woman is now well enough to talk and it turns out that the man violently assaulted her, injuring her very badly, including damaging her eye socket. And then he suddenly died of a heart attack.

Isn't it telling that the police's first thought to a woman having injuries so bad that she is now using a wheelchair is "sex game gone wrong"?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11072127/Jennie-Platt-beaten-rugby-star-boyfriend-Ricky-Bibey.html

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yourhairiswinterfire · 03/08/2022 14:25

Think about how they feel when you write disgusting comments about a deceased person

Women, just be kiiiiind about the 6ft 3, 17 stone tank of a man who died of a heart attack whilst beating the absolute shit out of a woman, who as a result is very lucky to be alive, needed several operations, suffered a broken eye socket, is in a wheelchair, and couldn't speak to the police for a week.

Hmm

No.

doorwedges · 03/08/2022 14:25

Harridan1981 · 03/08/2022 09:16

Hell yeah, he must have been petrified of her 'toxicity' while he smashed her face to a pulp and put her in a wheelchair while high on drugs. 👍👍

THIS.

when will people stop making excuses for men to batter women to death?

Icecreamclassic · 03/08/2022 14:27

I think you can have sympathy for a family who have to come to terms with the fact that their loved one did this and is now dead, but that doesn't mean you don't get to discuss violence against women and what he did.

Greenleevses · 03/08/2022 14:43

Icecreamclassic · 03/08/2022 14:27

I think you can have sympathy for a family who have to come to terms with the fact that their loved one did this and is now dead, but that doesn't mean you don't get to discuss violence against women and what he did.

This. And I'd also hope his family would be wise enough not to come onto the Mumsnet Feminism forum expecting there to be anything but negativity about a man that has almost killed a woman.

What I do find weird is that the woman's lawyer has said that he had never been violent to her before, and that it was completely out of character but that he'd been experiencing mental health issues in the months leading up to it. I know nothing about cocaine use but could it make a man turn like that? Or is the woman trying to preserve his reputation?

waterlego · 03/08/2022 15:01

@Greenleevses Yes, cocaine can cause an increase in aggressive behaviour, especially if it’s used with alcohol. This man may never have been violent before but that’s not to say he wasn’t necessarily abusive in other ways (obviously I don’t know either way, but it’s a possibility).

My friends ex-husband was quite controlling and pretty emotionally abusive to her over several years, but wasn’t violent towards her until he got heavily into cocaine and booze. She challenged him on something and he punched her in the face. She was bewildered and kept saying that he was really a nice, gentle man and nothing like this had happened before. I pointed out that although he had never been physical with her before, he had abused her in myriad other ways and she eventually came to understand that.

FlorettaB · 03/08/2022 15:03

That’s why I mentioned possible brain injury (CTE.) It’s also entirely possible that someone could have a one off episode of extreme violence as a result of health issues + dehydration + overheating + prescription and recreational drugs. The investigation will address all that but it still doesn’t change what he did or the serious violence he inflicted on his partner.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 03/08/2022 15:13

Macbeth8 · 03/08/2022 13:30

I know the family. Think about how they feel when you write disgusting comments about a deceased person. They are a lovely family..I can vouch for that. His sister helps disadvantaged families and suppports children in High school. She was very close to him.
Isnt fair the comments that are being made..you don't know all the ins and outs.

Then, petal, I suggest you think of the family and stop aggravating posters on mumsnet with nonsense.

If you don't make ridiculous comments that minimise stupendous levels of physical violence, people won't feel obliged to explain why your comments are ridiculous.

RichardOsmansXraySpecs · 03/08/2022 15:21

I know the family. Think about how they feel when you write disgusting comments about a deceased person.

"I know the family. Think about how they feel when you write RELATIVELY MILD disgusting comments about a deceased WOMAN-BEATING-AGGRESSIVE THUG person.

Fixed it for you x

Mysterioso · 03/08/2022 15:22

All the considerations of why he might not have been in his right mind are coming out too.
Joy.

Brocken eye socket lady is really lucky he had a heart attack at the right time or her family would be told she was just as bat shit crazy as he was and must have died of it. They'd never have known what she went through.

Lady beater seems to be getting tarnished with the manly man doing manly things brush. So much benefit of the doubt, "may have been a moment of madness" and "won't you think of those who don't want to remember him as an alcoholic drug fuelled lady beater"?

Bollocks. Minimisation in its stupidest form.

pantherrose · 03/08/2022 15:26

If Macbeth8 knows the family, then she'll also know that Bibey (and his brother ) were considered by some as a couple of thugs and who'd been arrested for GBH before. This wasn't the first time that Ricky Bibey has been violent.
There's an article on Metro UK where some of the comments from people who knew them are less than complimentary.

FlorettaB · 03/08/2022 15:30

Whatever the reasons for his violence it doesn’t change the outcome for the victim. She’s alive because he died.

Sheepreallylikerichteabiscuits · 03/08/2022 15:31

Macbeth8 · 03/08/2022 13:30

I know the family. Think about how they feel when you write disgusting comments about a deceased person. They are a lovely family..I can vouch for that. His sister helps disadvantaged families and suppports children in High school. She was very close to him.
Isnt fair the comments that are being made..you don't know all the ins and outs.

If you are genuinely more outraged at the comments on here than a man beating a woman to the point of being in a wheel chair and only stopping because he had a heart attack then I feel your priorities are in the wrong place.

I feel sorry for his sister and the rest of his family, but every murderer, every rapist, every paedophile has family. It is unfortunate that they may read comments that are written, but that still doesn't mean those comments shouldn't be written.

I feel far more sorry for how the victim feels, and how her family feels.

Hoppinggreen · 03/08/2022 15:52

Macbeth8 · 03/08/2022 13:30

I know the family. Think about how they feel when you write disgusting comments about a deceased person. They are a lovely family..I can vouch for that. His sister helps disadvantaged families and suppports children in High school. She was very close to him.
Isnt fair the comments that are being made..you don't know all the ins and outs.

His sister helps disadvantaged children?
How does that make him innocent exactly?

knittingaddict · 03/08/2022 15:55

Macbeth8 · 03/08/2022 13:30

I know the family. Think about how they feel when you write disgusting comments about a deceased person. They are a lovely family..I can vouch for that. His sister helps disadvantaged families and suppports children in High school. She was very close to him.
Isnt fair the comments that are being made..you don't know all the ins and outs.

What do you think abusive men look like? Monsters?

You can't tell from looking. They are that lovely man down the pub, the man who helps at his son's club, the school governor, the family man. They are all around you. Not every man, but far far too many.

Also, no thoughts and prayers for the poor victim? 😡

BruisedSkies · 03/08/2022 16:17

Surely ‘macbeth is on a wind up?

Vargas · 03/08/2022 16:26

Karma is a beautiful thing. Good riddance to a dangerous man. Hope Jennie makes a full recovery and is not too traumatised.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 03/08/2022 16:27

Icecreamclassic · 03/08/2022 14:27

I think you can have sympathy for a family who have to come to terms with the fact that their loved one did this and is now dead, but that doesn't mean you don't get to discuss violence against women and what he did.

Well said

Greenleevses · 03/08/2022 16:43

Lady beater seems to be getting tarnished with the manly man doing manly things brush.

I haven't seen anyone say that.

So much benefit of the doubt, "may have been a moment of madness" ... Bollocks. Minimisation in its stupidest form.

I don't think it's bollocks or minimisation to want to discuss how male violence
against women might not always escalate gradually or how drugs can aggravate it. If you want to interpret that as excusing it/giving him the benefit of the doubt, that's your issue.

RoyalCorgi · 03/08/2022 16:46

BruisedSkies · 03/08/2022 16:17

Surely ‘macbeth is on a wind up?

I think so. I don't imagine that Macbeth actually knew the couple. How come Macbeth just happened to stumble on this thread if Macbeth isn't a regular Mumsnet user? So, let's ignore the distraction.

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waterlego · 03/08/2022 16:56

All the considerations of why he might not have been in his right mind are coming out too.

Assume you’re including the discussion about cocaine in that? I simply stated the fact that cocaine can increase aggression, because it can. This doesn’t for one moment excuse the actions of this man. I knew quite a lot of people who enjoyed regular cocaine binges back in the 90s and early 00s and all of them managed to avoid beating other people to a pulp.

It might have been a factor in this case, it might not. But what he did was inexcusable, either way.

hellodaisy1 · 03/08/2022 16:58

Macbeth is constantly posting about her own incredibly abusive and neglectful, police officer husband. He is currently monitoring her using CCTV installed while he’s away learning to become a firearms officer and calling her names like ‘slag’ if he sees her on the cameras going out in gym gear.

Pretty surprised to see her defending another clearly abusive man to be honest.

knittingaddict · 03/08/2022 17:56

hellodaisy1 · 03/08/2022 16:58

Macbeth is constantly posting about her own incredibly abusive and neglectful, police officer husband. He is currently monitoring her using CCTV installed while he’s away learning to become a firearms officer and calling her names like ‘slag’ if he sees her on the cameras going out in gym gear.

Pretty surprised to see her defending another clearly abusive man to be honest.

Oh it's that person. That's worrying.

Clymene · 03/08/2022 18:45

Macbeth8 · 03/08/2022 13:30

I know the family. Think about how they feel when you write disgusting comments about a deceased person. They are a lovely family..I can vouch for that. His sister helps disadvantaged families and suppports children in High school. She was very close to him.
Isnt fair the comments that are being made..you don't know all the ins and outs.

He is a man who beat up a woman half his size to the point where he nearly killed her.

I don't care how nice his family are.

Stop making excuses for abusive men.

Minimalme · 03/08/2022 22:16

I was astonished at the time that the Police publicly broadcast their opinions on the crime scene. Surely they should keep it shut until after a court case?

The British media then did some tributes to the perpetrator, also before knowing anything about the situation.

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