Yougov study - attitudes to transgender rights have eroded

[eleanorwish]

Quite a lot of people commenting on this on Twitter

twitter.com/yougov/status/1549692153365991424?s=21&t=RgKSQ9HhOFGYevLAzDd05g

Ides would save a lot of time by just writing “blah, blah, blah… penis and testicles… phobia” whenever posting. That’s all we ever read out of it, anyway! 🤦🏻🤷🏽‍♀️

Huh, interesting, I really quite like them myself, it never occurred to me to relate them to my thoughts about gender ideology.

Well… sometimes euphemisms get used instead.

Don’t forget the snide remarks about female ‘fragility’ and usually involving ‘shaking in fear’ or a derivative.

Quite the predictable formula.

@Ides

Must you use that language? I’m scared of penises and testicles, after all. You could at least call them “dangly bits” or “man giblets”, and stop traumatising us.

Ides has been spaffing over a few threads.

Thought this was worth posting again as it clarifies the dangers to women and girls of this judgement and offers the hope that this flawed judgement could be appealed. (Thanks icelolly99 for originally posting it)

sex-matters.org/posts/the-workplace/if-you-cant-say-sex-how-can-you-say-sexual-harassment/

I cannot get my head around the injustice here. Committing offences in plain sight yet they are seen as the victim. What the hell? This is so wrong. What about the female employees who have had their protected space taken away from them? I'm disgusted.

the public realise that male bodied people in female spaces create a safeguarding risk. The public realise that male bodied people have the advantage in womens sport. It’s all very sensible stuff, based on statistics and research.

We should be thankful of the media for increasing their coverage over the last couple of years, the Daily Mail especially have given much support to women's rights.

This is the only 'civil rights' movement that results in less public acceptance the more people learn about it and are exposed to its activism. I don't think I've seen that with other types of movements. 😂😂
No wonder the Denton's handbook instructs gender activists to sneak around behind everyone's back. They really need an endless supply of dishonesty, threats and manipulation to push their agenda - unlike genuine movements for marginalised groups.

We should be thankful of the media for increasing their coverage over the last couple of years, the Daily Mail especially have given much support to women's rights.

I’m dubious that the Mail has been publishing five articles on trans topics per day. Not that it really matters, but I’m curious. Where did you get those numbers?

This has also reminded me of this horrendous story from earlier this year.
Read it and weep!

www.google.com/amp/s/www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/hospital-says-patient-could-not-26506744.amp

The more that people learn about what TRAs actually want, the less they like what they see. TRAs always knew this which is why they tried to sneak their demands in by the back door (Dentons, #nodebate etc). Unfortunately, being mostly the misogynists that they are, they forgot that women aren't stupid.

Really hope those women feel they can come forward and get a case for sexual harrasment. They need to know that their legal costs would be covered by the thousands of supportive women.

These are from those highly reliable TRAs, and from previous posts by dafunk I think they think they're being clever and ironic, and are hoping we agree with the statement that Daily Mail is pro-women rights, so they can have a laugh on twatter about it with their mates.

@dafunk Papers publish what sells the papers, that is what people want to read about, measured by clicks and comments. Surely you know that. Yes, there've increase in articles about these issues, because as people are confronted with this bullshit in their lives and workplaces and told to educate themselves they obediently want to, so click on articles more and more. Shame that, isn't it, the papers should be educating people in the CORRECT way, like Pravda

@dafunk Papers publish what sells the papers, that is what people want to read about, measured by clicks and comments. Surely you know that.

As long as the glorious sunlight continues flooding in I'm happy 😊

We should be thankful of the media for increasing their coverage over the last couple of years

Yes, I am

from previous posts by dafunk I think they think they're being clever and ironic, and are hoping we agree with the statement that Daily Mail is pro-women rights,

I haven’t even seen any previous posts from them but I still picked up on that. 😁 Super clever indeed!

And yea, I thought those numbers sounded like total bullshit. Now it’s confirmed from a TRA source, I’m assuming they probably did a search for “trans” on the Daily Mail site and included articles about trans fats, trans atlantic trade and heart transplants in their article count.

Didn't twatter used to ban / delete/ restrict any GC type posts? It certainly seems to have changed recently loads of GC stuff on there now which is heartening.

I wonder how the TRA/incels will respond to these figures?

More death/rape threats issued? More Black Pamper attendance at events? Perhaps express more 'all GC women are literal Nazi's!' determinations?

Key events seem to result in exponential drops in support for the TRA/incel cause. The Kathleen Stock scandal was one recent event which caused serious damage. Likewise the Black Pamper activity in Manchester and Bristol. In reality there are dozens of events worldwide that provoked a drop-off in support for the TRA/incels. Lia Thomas contributed hugely to current attitudes.

The next major event is likely to be the Mermaids vs. LGB Alliance/Charity Commissioners High Court case which will enable the LGBA to publicise its activities to a wider audience, particularly its new film 'Queens'. That case will likely be recognised as being a distinct homophobic attack on Britain's gay, lesbian and bisexual community in an effort to silence it and prevent it from organising. In its defence the LGBA will be able to draw attention to its core campaign against 'transing-the-gay' - crystalised in its film

The only news programme I have seen/heard that digs deeper than firing off no brainier "what is a woman?" questioning is The Nolan Report. Occasionally Newsnight does it too.
The what is a woman question just plays to the "that's just a dog whistle" crowd without proper follow up and interrogation.
It doesn't inform people who have steered clear of it so far.
The Nolan Report should be required listening for every journalist before they ask any questions.

I think the recent Macy Gray debacle may have peaked some people. I do wonder if she deliberately overdid the televised apology to peak people. She looked like a hostage victim.

Refreshingly, once a few people point out the emperor has no clothes it seems to give permission for others to break out of the mass hypnosis and question this shit so it does seem to have gained traction.

And it can't come bloody soon enough!

This horror brought out the true absurdity of the TRAs demands. Every single step was just wrong. The man should not have been in a protected space to start with. Then to deny the rape had happened as there were no men on the women's ward. The most diabolical part for me was expecting people to say the rapist was a woman. This still enrages when I think how fucking ridiculous this crap is.

Has the NHS taken the necessary action to prevent this from happening again?

Keir Starmer please remind me what is a woman?

Katy Montgomerie tatrumming that 'repeat after us, transwomen are women' has not worked as expected...

Montgomery tantrums all too often. I always laugh though when posters link anything Montgomery says in an appeal to authority.