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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ricky Gervais sharing Mr Menno on FB

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Sunflower987 · 07/07/2022 21:48

Sorry if there is already a thread about this...
I am so surprised to see Ricky Gervais has shared a video of Mr Menno where he speaks about the issues with gender ideology on Facebook.

The comment section is alive with so many people speaking out, I have never seen this on Facebook before, I find many people are too scared to say what they think and its usually full of people shouting others down and calling them bigots if few dare to speak.
(There are few but they are being successfully challenged.)

People seem to be feeling braver..

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MenopausalMe · 08/07/2022 10:06

First Mr Menno video I’ve watched, my husband watched it when I played it.

I’ll admit it pisses me off that DH was probably more likely to watch a video by a man quoting other men even though he’d deny it but it got the point across (DH is on board with feminist view but doesn’t read or watch anything on this)

Video got the point across DH commented that Nish sounded unhinged and high. Shame we both used to find Nish funny.

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 10:08

@adealwithgod

Not to people of colour though.

How so?

RoyalCorgi · 08/07/2022 10:13

That's a great video. He is so calm and measured. And I know it's annoying that men are more likely to listen to other men, but I cherish our male allies as there are so few of them.

Nish Kumar sounds deranged and completely unfunny.

ControversialOpening · 08/07/2022 10:26

Ah, once again it's the "I have no argument so I'm going to shout 'racist'" argument.

You know it's a little less effective each time you do it?

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 10:36

Oh, was that it, Menno's got to be racist because Kumar is brown? If so, that's
pathetic. I'm brown, I think Nish Kumar is an idiot. I've followed Menno for a couple of years, I think I'd have noticed if he was a racist, so I was surprised by the accusation.

picklemewalnuts · 08/07/2022 10:44

Menno attempted a 'funny' by dressing as a black pamper. Unfortunately it looked like blackface. It was insensitive.

Some people think it racist- which I'd agree with if it happened again.

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 11:07

Did he put black make up on, Justin Trudeau style, and pretend to be a black person? Or did he put on clothes that resembled a tighter version of those of the TRA protesters - including balaclava, not make up - and pop a nappy over the top, by way of a pastiche of a TRA protester's garb and behaviour? Which part of his acting at the protest made people think he was acting like a black person? Do you think that's how black people act? If so, isn't that a bit racist? Are TRAs racist for their choice of black clothing and balaclavas? Are black wetsuits racist? Black leggings, black running gear, black burkinis, Catwoman? Us non whites need to know the truth about how we are being oppressed by sportswear.

Civillservant · 08/07/2022 11:12

picklemewalnuts · 08/07/2022 10:44

Menno attempted a 'funny' by dressing as a black pamper. Unfortunately it looked like blackface. It was insensitive.

Some people think it racist- which I'd agree with if it happened again.

An apology would be welcomed, but so far zip.

Ricky Gervais sharing Mr Menno on FB
picklemewalnuts · 08/07/2022 11:12

He wore a skin suit, in black. That's not the same as black joggers and hoody. It's not the same as a black wet suit for water sports.

I don't think it was racist, I'm explaining the reference to a PP.
I can see why some people did see it as racist.

That doesn't mean we dismiss everything he says.

Pluvia · 08/07/2022 11:15

Thanks for posting the link to the video, I hadn't seen it. Will forward it on: fact-filled and hard-hitting.

This issue really sorts out the misogynists from the good guys, doesn't it?

Civillservant · 08/07/2022 11:15

Which part of his acting at the protest made people think he was acting like a black person?

I'm not Malcolm X, but I know what blackface is.

Hoppinggreen · 08/07/2022 11:16

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 23:10

I love Rachel Parrish's excellent skits.

I always thought it was part of her act to tell Nish Kumar what a dick he was but now I’m not so sure

Datun · 08/07/2022 11:20

Civillservant · 08/07/2022 11:12

An apology would be welcomed, but so far zip.

He was dressing up as one of the 'black pampers' that hassled Posie, hence the nappy.

Me Menno makes tons of videos, all the time, and is fully alive to all the issues. No one genuinely thinks he was in black face.

Although, Ricky Gervais tweeting his video, is understandably making other people want to discredit him, of course.

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 11:27

Civillservant · 08/07/2022 11:15

Which part of his acting at the protest made people think he was acting like a black person?

I'm not Malcolm X, but I know what blackface is.

How is dressing up as a pastiche of a typical Bristol Uni, middle class, white boy, woman hating agitator that attends anti women protests the same as black face?

Civillservant · 08/07/2022 11:32

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 11:27

How is dressing up as a pastiche of a typical Bristol Uni, middle class, white boy, woman hating agitator that attends anti women protests the same as black face?

No one genuinely thinks he was in black face.

That's simply not true.

At this stage it's more notable that he hasn't acknowleged/apologised for what many, many people plainly see anyway - instead he releases a video criticising an Asian comedian.

We see him.

Ricky Gervais sharing Mr Menno on FB
IamEarthymama · 08/07/2022 11:47

i have met Mr Menno in real life and had a Cwtch!
He is really nice and has a great understanding of how misogynistic and homophobic the Trans Rights movement is.

Re Blackface, because I am up to date with all the shenanigans that TRAs get up to, I know he was being a Black Pamper referring to the Young TRAs who try to prevent women speaking.

if you watch the video you can see this clearly.

waterbabys · 08/07/2022 11:48

@Civillservant is your arm sore from all that reaching?

Ridiculous. But clearly you think you've refuted all Menno's excellent points by making this comparison 😂🤦🏼‍♀️ go and have a cuppa

skilpadde · 08/07/2022 11:59

It's a reference to these gen z, over-privileged, middle-class, white, women-hating TRAs.

But you already knew that.

Ricky Gervais sharing Mr Menno on FB
IcakethereforeIam · 08/07/2022 12:01

Mr Menno did a pastiche on pronouns and the Sound of Music that gave me a proper laugh.

Can someone point me to the apology that the tras posted for their racists comments about black women.

risefromyourgrave · 08/07/2022 12:07

Civillservant · 08/07/2022 11:32

No one genuinely thinks he was in black face.

That's simply not true.

At this stage it's more notable that he hasn't acknowleged/apologised for what many, many people plainly see anyway - instead he releases a video criticising an Asian comedian.

We see him.

He’s also done videos criticising Lorraine Kelly, Russell T Davies and Boy George, so don’t try to pretend he’s racist because he’s done one video about a TRA comedian who happens to be Asian. Unless you think that people of colour should be above criticism? That strikes me as a bit patronising.

ilovesushi · 08/07/2022 12:09

"It's not about equality. It's about demands and privileges." Great comment from Mr Menno.

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 12:12

I am not a white person, I am brown. I do not see Mr Menno's outfit as depicting a person of colour like myself. My immediate thought was not, ooh, he looks like a black person. Anyone that does think that is, to me, the racist. If you think those pictures make Mr Menno look more like the black man in the middle than the black clad man on the left, then you are the racist.

picklemewalnuts · 08/07/2022 12:54

I totally agree, @ContradickstoryEvidence .

When those images are pasted side by side, along with images of blackface, it does look bad- but that's the deliberate intent. It stokes division. That doesn't help any of us.

Dogwomangowoof · 08/07/2022 13:09

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Datun · 08/07/2022 13:26

Civillservant · 08/07/2022 11:32

No one genuinely thinks he was in black face.

That's simply not true.

At this stage it's more notable that he hasn't acknowleged/apologised for what many, many people plainly see anyway - instead he releases a video criticising an Asian comedian.

We see him.

Haha! Because he's got his arm up in the air?? Every kid at school who needs to go to the toilet?

His entire video is about resisting the very compliance that you're demanding.

So I imagine, and this is only a hunch, that the apology you are seeking is directly aligned with hell significantly dropping in temperature.