Good T**f, Bad T**f Julie Berchill article about Leftwing feminism

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Julie Burchill article about the fall out between some Left wing feminists and Kelly J Keen.
I think she is right in her view that Labour has not shifted and is not likely to, whether women want to leave the left for the other lot is another matter.

www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/29/why-terfs-need-to-leave-the-left/#.Yryqjdi6LWo.facebook

There are a variety of viewpoints/tradition on this question today and also historically. As you'd expect, there are some strong connections but also some differences as well as differences of emphasis with Christianity.

I mean to say, within Judaism.

Ta, Mangy.

Bugger off then.

It's a male sexual rights movement, it's neither left nor right wing.

The reason why it's embraced by the left and right in the UK is because they are deeply misogynistic parties.

Both the left and the right know it's not popular, but as the left are authoritarian they think they can impose it on the electorate. Conservatives are probably wise enough to know that isn't going to work, so will have to distance themselves from it somehow or distract us with other issues and hope we don't notice the damage it does to women and girls.

@AlienatedChildGrown you articulated a lot of what I feel.

It's reassuring to know that's it's not just me.

The reason why it's embraced by the left and right in the UK is because they are deeply misogynistic parties.

our whole society is so misogynistic sexism often doesn't even register as sexism. It's invisible. Women are subordinated and seen as lesser than men - I really think that it's very hard for most people to see or acknowledge how deeply this attitude goes.

I remember the heady days of "our Judeo-Christian/Abrahamic ideas of redemption and salvation" when the Christians murdered the Jews on their way to kill the Muslims in the Crusades

imagine being multiple centuries old and still thinking and writing like a stroppy teenager. Like an Anne Rice character without the glamour.

To be fair, at some point, antifascist is going to return with an even-handed comment about Stalin's purges, the Holodomor, and what happens when you allow ideology to take precedence over science and/or policy such as the tragedy of collectivization.

Stalin and that period are fascinating and tragic reflections about what happens when ideology trumps reality and the impact of that much delayed self-destruction. There are comparable mirror images in other ideologies that have resulted in atrocities.

Stalin and that period are fascinating and tragic reflections about what happens when ideology trumps reality and the impact of that much delayed self-destruction. There are comparable mirror images in other ideologies that have resulted in atrocities.

Yup, ignoring the science and reality never ends well...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

'And I’m the brilliant, boastful writer who is also – just this once, in my intent not to give my X to any party that doesn’t recognise my sex – the sensible one.'
I'm with Burchill on this one. As an ex-Labour party member anyone saying 'I'll never vote Tory because they are all evil etc' is not worthy of the right to vote, when free speech is now so heavily under threat. Freedom of speech and thought will not be easy to get back once it has been removed.

Love the "72 genders but only 2 political positions, left and far right" comment. So true

Being private property is infinitely better though lol

Me too. I think it is also an age thing and a relative wealth in later life thing but I would be embarrassed to admit having been a Labour Party Member in public now. So tainted has Labour become by anti-semitism, Corbynism, gender-identity ideology etc

Look at the state of public toilets - if someone believes the analogy is broadly true there is certainly an argument for preferring private!

Yes the TRAs and MRAs are a vocal minority who consistently show their their right wing views. If we don't want a cancel culture though, we have to let them have their say.