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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another go woke go broke - McCains

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Birdsweepsin · 28/06/2022 09:41

twitter.com/McCainUKIE/status/1541406087324246019?s=20&t=pug-ahmQqiD5mqyyLzLdAw

Who the hell in adland thinks insulting or mocking the people who buy your products is a winning strategy?

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Conflictedunicorn · 29/06/2022 06:43

MichelleScarn · 29/06/2022 06:27

l don’t have a narrow idea of what drag is, and I understand you see it as ‘punch down’ humour because you feel like women are the butt of the joke. THAT view is narrow. Drag is so much more than that and always has been.

So it's still the 'if you don't like it or feel it's taking the piss out of women, you're narrow minded'?

Apparently. But taking the piss out of any other group is evil and wrong. Where were all these people telling women they’re wrong to object telling trans people they’re wrong for objecting to Ricky Gervais or Dave Chapelle? Or is it only women who can’t object to being mocked by a bloke

Braggiography · 29/06/2022 08:56

The thing is that sexism is so baked into our world that it's virtually invisible. It's astonishing when you start to notice how often when someone says 'people', they actually mean 'men'.

A million tiny shades of subtle sexism - historic and present - pervade every situation.

This is why women are an invisible group whose thoughts are easily discounted, whose feelings don't matter, whose experiences are brushed aside. In order that we can centre the really important issues; those of men.

So our feelings that ridicule of our body parts ('knockers') is unpleasant, offensive, hurtful, all get brushed aside with 'it's a laugh, lighten up'. But a gender non-conforming male is so worried about his ego getting damaged by someone not recognising his invisible innate gender identity that we are expected to embrace his entry into women's single sex spaces - not only embrace, we're to celebrate it.

KittenKong · 29/06/2022 09:04

I’m often amazed by 20-30 year old women who swallow all this sexist crap. Kids and teens are ‘getting it’ now.

ElephantsFart · 29/06/2022 09:05

I suspect I’m not their target audience as I don’t buy frozen junk food. But all the same it’s a crap ad.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/06/2022 10:09

this is an ad appearing on kids YouTube videos. Which are aimed at err children.

Someone also said this on Twitter.

MarshaBradyo · 29/06/2022 10:12

Braggiography · 29/06/2022 08:56

The thing is that sexism is so baked into our world that it's virtually invisible. It's astonishing when you start to notice how often when someone says 'people', they actually mean 'men'.

A million tiny shades of subtle sexism - historic and present - pervade every situation.

This is why women are an invisible group whose thoughts are easily discounted, whose feelings don't matter, whose experiences are brushed aside. In order that we can centre the really important issues; those of men.

So our feelings that ridicule of our body parts ('knockers') is unpleasant, offensive, hurtful, all get brushed aside with 'it's a laugh, lighten up'. But a gender non-conforming male is so worried about his ego getting damaged by someone not recognising his invisible innate gender identity that we are expected to embrace his entry into women's single sex spaces - not only embrace, we're to celebrate it.

It’s amazing isn’t it

And it’s not just lighten up we get in return

DadJoke · 29/06/2022 10:56

If you are complaining about drag and innuendo and you've ever taken your kids to panto, you are a hypocrite.

Clymene · 29/06/2022 11:02

DadJoke · 29/06/2022 10:56

If you are complaining about drag and innuendo and you've ever taken your kids to panto, you are a hypocrite.

Nope, never taken my kids to a panto. Never understood why they're so popular in the U.K.

KittenKong · 29/06/2022 11:08

The school took DS to one once. He announced very loudly that he didn’t like it.

and how can you compare widow twanky with Anna Bortion? and I’ve never seen a pantomime dames pant bulge, or naked moobs.

LunaLights · 29/06/2022 11:09

DadJoke · 29/06/2022 10:56

If you are complaining about drag and innuendo and you've ever taken your kids to panto, you are a hypocrite.

Might be an idea to read the thread before commenting - that’s already been trotted out….

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 29/06/2022 12:10

DadJoke · 29/06/2022 10:56

If you are complaining about drag and innuendo and you've ever taken your kids to panto, you are a hypocrite.

If.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 29/06/2022 12:12

LunaLights · 29/06/2022 11:09

Might be an idea to read the thread before commenting - that’s already been trotted out….

DadJoke was one of the ones who mentioned it last, even. The point didn't take off, so he's having another go.

GoodJanetBadJanet · 29/06/2022 12:15

Nope, never taken my kids to a panto. Never understood why they're so popular in the U.K.
Because they're brilliant, loved going to the panto as a kid and still do now as an adult.
Shocker, we all like different things.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 29/06/2022 12:34

Tell DadJoke that we all like different things. He's the one who is under the impression that the existence of pantomimes is a gotcha card that means a food company can use whatever humour it wants.

Loads of people don't like panto and don't pay to go. Given this, there is no universal consent on the part of parents to be served smutty humour in ads following or preceding YouTube Kids videos.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/06/2022 12:35

DadJoke was one of the ones who mentioned it last, even. The point didn't take off, so he's having another go.

I think most people missed his first effort!

Clymene · 29/06/2022 12:40

GoodJanetBadJanet · 29/06/2022 12:15

Nope, never taken my kids to a panto. Never understood why they're so popular in the U.K.
Because they're brilliant, loved going to the panto as a kid and still do now as an adult.
Shocker, we all like different things.

Thanks for sharing! 👍

Beefcurtains79 · 29/06/2022 12:47

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 14:05

You have your opinion, I have mine. Just watch what you want to watch and buy what you want to buy and I will do the same.

Without the freedom to discuss it? We can discuss whatever we like without your permission, thanks.

buckeejit · 29/06/2022 12:49

Jaysus, you're not alone. How shit.

Not a fan of drag but sexualising an ad to children is all kinds of wrong. Grim McCain, totally grim.

funnelfanjo · 29/06/2022 14:56

The drag of the 70s and 80s (hinge&bracket, Les Dawson, Two Ronnies, Kenny Everett, Dame Edna etc) were Acts, in that they were characters played by actors. Yes the comedy was of it’s time and much of it doesn’t stand up to modern taste, but there was no one seriously thought the characters were people with lifestyles to inspire others. There’s the difference. As an example, Danny La Rue was a celebrity ribbon cutter at a local fair when I was a kid. I had my photo taken with him - he’s wearing a man’s suit and was he wasn’t dressed up as a “female impersonator”. He was the celebrity, not his act.

Riverlee · 29/06/2022 19:08

The theme of this ad is “Anything Goes”. In this case, I think it’s. Women who are going…, going away from Mcains!

MenopausalMe · 29/06/2022 19:58

DadJoke · 29/06/2022 10:56

If you are complaining about drag and innuendo and you've ever taken your kids to panto, you are a hypocrite.

Good pantos have different jokes for matinee and evening performances. I personally hate pants and didn’t take my children but I am well aware how the good pantos work

MenopausalMe · 29/06/2022 19:59

MenopausalMe · 29/06/2022 19:58

Good pantos have different jokes for matinee and evening performances. I personally hate pants and didn’t take my children but I am well aware how the good pantos work

ffs I don't hate pants I like comfy pants I hate pantos

KittenKong · 29/06/2022 20:41

I never liked them either. All that stupid “if you boys and girls don’t shout ‘I believe’ tinkerbell with die!!” Malarkey. I knew it was hooey when I was very small and though the other children were a bit dim if they believed in it all.

Yes, I was that child…

GoodJanetBadJanet · 29/06/2022 22:51

All that stupid “if you boys and girls don’t shout ‘I believe’ tinkerbell with die!!” Malarkey. I knew it was hooey when I was very small and though the other children were a bit dim if they believed in it all.
Crikey, Vernon Dursley has entered the chat 😁
You'll be bellowing "there's no such thing as magic!" next
Didn't you enjoy any fiction as a kid? As imagination and "magic" is a huge part of it!

KittenKong · 29/06/2022 22:57

I just had a real issue with people telling fibs…

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