Pronouns are like so over!!

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If you can bear to wade through this long self absorbed naval gazing piece Meeeeee
the author concludes that now everyone is doing it, it no longer confers the super special status it once did on them so we should stop

he concludes “just call me by my name”

im completely shocked, shocked I tell you, that “misgendering” someone by using the wrong pronouns is actually not literal violence after all

Paragraph after paragraph of self obsessed claptrap just to say "we wanted people to obsess about pronouns but now we realise it's dumb"

Good news, I reckon

Haven't read the whole thing but it's very "You like that band? They were good before everyone had heard of them" isn't it?

Raging narcissist. Imagine working with this person.

Nobody has ever asked me for my pronouns. Hopefully I will be going out the way I came in.

Hugely privileged narc confesses that it was a status enhancing power play all along.

Absolutely no one is surprised.

I thought it was an interesting article

What a long-winded way of saying “Me! Me! Me! I’m different”.

In this case, starting with some of the most basic elements of the English language: the pronouns he and she. There’s power in sloughing off both of them, and some fun, especially when I see how befuddled the whole thing can make people. There is a certain satisfaction in making this confusion you seem to be having — What box to put Brock in? — your problem, not mine.

Not my problem. Your box is obvious: male. More specifically male who likes making other people uncomfortable.

Everyone asks me for my pronouns. To me, what that means is ‘I see that you’re a man. And I see that you’re dressed in a woman’s costume. And I would like to know whether or not you want me to participate in the fantasy you’re having,’ ” they said.

So close!

What exactly is empowering about going through life with a reservoir of internal anger, ready to explode on anyone who doesn’t understand our admittedly complicated relationships to our genders?

So using others to validate his trans identity is counter-productive to him - not unkind to others?

By the way, I'm not interested in your complicated relationship with your gender. I'm not your counsellor or your analyst. Be as feminine or masculine or androgynous as you like. I'm a woman. You are a man.

"..and you do want to flatter yourself with your deft ally-ness..."

Charming.

I doubt that pronoun declarations will go away, I'll carry on referring to people by name as much as I can and not declaring mine.

"am a little proud to say that my generation was the one that forced — finally — the entire world, or at least the good-intentioned, progressive part of it that I am fortunate enough to reside in, to acknowledge something many queer people (and feminists and restless square pegs of many varieties) have long sought: freedom from the bright-line tyranny of gender and its accompanying expectations."

Oh sweet child of summer.... you have no idea how far from the truth that is.

That may be a sentiment that underlies much of this stuff

Well this was inevitable. Fads fade. And it is a fad.

I do not think any of this will last, but I think it will stick around for a long time yet unfortunately.

Yes @Truthlikeness it is clearly written by someone who hasn’t looked any further back or around their own little circle and history

mate ppl have been gender non conforming for years. They just understood it didn’t make them change sex

This! "It was only fun when we were upsetting people, now people are accepting it and I'm bored, what else can we do to cause a stir with our oppressed outrage?"

Do you know, I’m as GC as they come, but actually I thought that was a fun read. It was witty and smart in places, and had a decent level of self-awareness. I think I’d like Brock Colyar in person. I do love a man in nail varnish and makeup.

Absolutely. "Oh pronouns are so mainstream now, they are no longer relevant".

No doubt, in a few years time, anyone who dares ask someone their pronouns, will be considered offensive and a bigot.

Good, pronouns are old hat now and sooo irrelevant 😃
I did giggle at the bit where he was assigned both his sex AND his name at birth. Just like that!

I don’t mind that teenagers are obsessed with not being put in boxes, and then proceed to label themselves according to how they part their hair. It is also good to read that they start to mature at around age 24-25.

I hope it trickles UP to the middle aged people who have a different agenda than «personal freedom» and to those who have been falling all over themselves to facilitate this agenda without understanding it at all.

"If you know my pronouns,” Sam continued, “you know very little about me. It was never about the pronoun. We’re doing it for other people. In an ideal universe, I don’t need to have a pronoun.""

How close is this though. Because really the pronouns we all use just reflect the sex we can very clearly see people are. If you know my sex, you still know very little about me. You don't know if I like mowing the lawn, baking, craft beer or anything else stereotypically female or male. We need accurate words to describe the sex of people, ie pronouns are useful.

But in an ideal universe I agree Sam, I too don't need to have people make outdated assumptions about me based on gender stereotypes.

I welcome much of what he's saying & it does show critical thought, including around the futility of preferred pronouns (Brock accepts everyone still read him as male anyway) :
I worry that in the end, they/them is just another dead end that mostly serves to annoy some people and make others feel better about themselves

But this bit was hilarious:
At the time, I was particularly close with one of my professors, whom other professors were constantly approaching nervously to ask how they should refer to me.

'constantly' 😂 aye Brock, aye.

Another giveaway! You go along with it, you're flattering yourself with your deft ally-ness; you don't, you need to die in a grease fire.

I actually liked the article.

Another young gay man who found out he didn't like the masculine expectations placed upon him so decided to identify as non binary.

There is some self awareness and acknowledgment that there's an element of rebellion which now it has become part of the establishment it is no longer fun.

Yes the writer is ageist but that is not uncommon amongst 20 year olds. I can remember thinking that 30 was old!

A good article to bookmark and pass on.

that was long! and so self obsessed. but i'm totally with just using their name ...

Agree with a lot of this. Brock didn't fit the stereotypes, tried to identify out of people's expectations.

Turns out it's the cultural expectations that need to change, not how you identify.

I’m actually embarrassed by the women (usually women) in my current and past industry who do this. _always- she/her.

They fall into 2 camps:

middle aged straight women, married to men, with kids who wear dresses and heels, and

young women - in a traditionallyvery male industry (where sexism is rife). Duh???

So cringe. Get some self respect.