Anti-trans spin from RMW

[Crazylazydayz]

There is a difference between being supporting women’s rights and anti-trans.

In this article RMW is misrepresenting a whole raft of women who are fighting for women’s rights as being anti trans.

novaramedia.com/2022/05/31/a-barrister-explains-why-employment-tribunals-are-a-new-trans-rights-battlefield/

Totally agree with dignity and respect Crazylazydayz.

That dignity and respect is important in life wherever possible, but when the clash of conflicting rights around dignity and respect for two groups of people comes into stark view, like it did for me today watching ScotGov rep asking the question about her Muslim mother - the thin edge of the wedge has been knocked out of the door, and the very thick and demanding other end of the wedge is plain to see.

You naughty women - didn't you know you needed permission before giving away your hard earned cash

😂I want to know when we will get reimbursed. If politicians had done their jobs properly, the existing law would never have been so wilfully misinterpreted across the board.

Maya has commented on Twitter. ❤

If you're in hospital, like overnight, these days for breaking your leg, that's a really bad break. You might have multiple traumas after an accident. The trauma wards in the hospital I work at have single sex bays plus some side rooms which are under huge pressure because of Covid
You're likely to need help getting mobile, gettung dressed, you might have a catheter. Is RMW unable to understand that her whole body is sexed and so is every patient body on the ward?

I wonder if the judge at the Bailey case is aware of this article. I find it incredible that they think it is ok to talk about a legal case whilst it is in court.

I don't think there is a strict rule about not discussing an ongoing case but as we know barristers have professional duties to uphold and the bar standards board rules. They have to act with honesty, integrity and independence and not mislead. In addition, if a barrister were to label someone e.g. "anti-trans" there could be a claim in defamation, particularly as someone like Allison Bailey has demonstrated that she is not anti-trans but she believes in the material reality of biological sex.

In essence, even if its not strictly prohibited it certainly is unprofessional to give such a biased and misleading account.

Yes, the BSB might well consider having a look at RMW's contribution to the article.

It's interesting that the GC approach of bringing issues into the sunlight is frowned upon in this article. Nice contrast to the underhand tactics of Press for Change and the Dentons recommendations to hide changes to the law by tacking trans policies into more popular legislation such as gay marriage.

Both tactics prove the actual facts are unpalatable to most people.

Oops, meant to add that I see that the article has been archived for posterity: web.archive.org/web/20220531224146/novaramedia.com/2022/05/31/a-barrister-explains-why-employment-tribunals-are-a-new-trans-rights-battlefield/

TheBiologyStupid - that's handy - just in case someone decides it wasn't them.

Have we still got the bingo card of excuses ? We could add 'I thought the case was over and the transphobic bitches had all been sent for re-education'

😂🤣

Indeed. I was more concerned that the article might be tweaked to remove any embarrassing phrases that might cross the BSB line. But too late for that kind of shenanigans now - what a shame.

Every now and then Magdalen's voice pops into my head.

"so woke their brains fell out"

It's your minds are so open your brains have fallen out.

Which I think was originally attributed to Carl Sagan.

HSBC now work on voice recognition so hopefully that won’t happen.

Yes, the BSB might well consider having a look at RMW's contribution to the article.

My guess - and it is only a guess - is that they’d only do so if there’s a complaint. At least, my regulator doesn’t go hunting stuff; they wait til a complaint comes in.

I was shocked by this. I had assumed that RMW knew that RMW did not pass. Few trans women do, after all. It really does require luck in your original body size and face structure, or an awful lot of surgery, to pass effectively.

Robin refers to gender here, not sex. By gender, I think Robin is referring to Robin's gender presentation. It's not about passing. A person wearing a dress is obviously someone expressing a female gender.

It's odd how this only works one way. I don't think anyone has ever thought I might have a male gender, just because I was wearing a man's jeans and t-shirt.

Jeeeesus. That article is insane.

Robin appears to have no clue about why women are bringing all these cases to court.

NM: In your opinion, what’s the motivation for this type of legal challenge – is it just about winning?

RW: There’s multiple motivations. These people know they might lose; if you look at the crowdfunding being run for the case against the rape crisis centre in Brighton, they say one of the reasons they are running the appeal is that they might lose and have to pay the other side’s costs. But they think it’s worth it to bring the issue into the public domain and grow their movement. And that has happened so far.

Robin thinks Sarah is challenging the Brighton rape crisis centre just to 'grow the movement'. Robin has no idea what it's like to be a woman, and makes no effort to try to understand.

Very interesting podcast featuring RMW
cool2btrans.co.uk/cool-people-robin-moira-white/