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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGB Alliance monkeypox tweets deleted

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pezdis · 30/05/2022 21:44

The LGB Alliance tweets from yesterday about gay men and monkeypox have been deleted by twitter for either homophobia or misinformation.

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Wait4me · 31/05/2022 13:33

I'm not being funny but how many gay men are on here nodding

Virtually zero I'd imagine.

Out in the real world though LGBA is almost exclusively known for two things.

  1. Pushing mainly an anti-trans agenda.

and now due to the Allison Bailey tribunal.

  1. Being vehemently supported by Mumsnet
Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 13:33

Awww Rufus!! Are you saying that the plan won’t work to make Stonewall uncool?

Based off wait4me’s very firm testimony, I was surely convinced.

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 31/05/2022 13:34

so I see ageism remains completely acceptable to the scolders. As always Im almost in awe at the capacity of posters not even born in the 80s & who did not live through the AIDS epidemic or section 28 to handwave away the concerns of those LGB ppl who did.

i assume those who think the LGBA not focusing on trans ppl is transphobic are similarly scolding the donkey sanctuary for excluding cows and age uk for not focusing on children

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 31/05/2022 13:34

This whole thread is about twitter deleting potentially important information for gay men

now you can agree with all the sex clubs being shut down or think its wrong and/or an overreaction

but it boils down to some of you people NOT wanted others to have information and not wanting a debate on the best way forward

…should have been left up and debated like grown ups in my opinion

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 31/05/2022 13:38

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 13:33

Awww Rufus!! Are you saying that the plan won’t work to make Stonewall uncool?

Based off wait4me’s very firm testimony, I was surely convinced.

Nah

not gonna work

the whole thing is just another attempt to have a pop about FWR, and its such a silly one 😀

AlisonDonut · 31/05/2022 13:54

Wait4me · 31/05/2022 13:33

I'm not being funny but how many gay men are on here nodding

Virtually zero I'd imagine.

Out in the real world though LGBA is almost exclusively known for two things.

  1. Pushing mainly an anti-trans agenda.

and now due to the Allison Bailey tribunal.

  1. Being vehemently supported by Mumsnet

I think you really need to have a sit down and try and work out why you hate gay and lesbian people so hard that you are now even policing who they are supported by.

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 14:01

So.... Rufus, in reality, it is just what we all suppose?

That LGB Alliance has no connection with Mumsnet except for some posters are supporters, and occasionally some posters might post things about them here. Plus occasionally, people from LGB Alliance will be at the same events as posters from Mumsnet.

Should we be really upset that LGB Alliance ISN'T relying on us like we are being told by some posters? So, no one is going to cease to exist if we stop clapping?

I was getting into the thought that if the alleged six posters and their bots and socks of MN FWR could be this powerful, then wa-hey... we could do take over bids and everything!

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 14:05

…should have been left up and debated like grown ups in my opinion

yes. But I think we have seen the capabilities of some 'grown ups' in being able to debate this very serious topic though here as a live demonstration.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 31/05/2022 14:16

helleofabore

oh good lord I didn’t think of takeover bids 🤔

maybe we should be playing up our part in all this, i keep downplaying our ‘to blame for everything’ skills…thats possibly an error on my part

Wait4me · 31/05/2022 14:17

That LGB Alliance has no connection with Mumsnet except for some posters are supporters, and occasionally some posters might post things about them here

There's literally been sixteen threads with over 600 pages about LGB Alliance founder Allison Bailey dominating this section for the last 5 weeks.

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 14:19

I was also secretly wanting to know if I was a bot, a sock or one of the 'six'.

Because I could be you and have deliberately changed my posting style to hide the fact that I AM you and about a hundred others.....

It is hard to not know if you are a sock or a bot or an original...

Datun · 31/05/2022 14:21

I'm still waiting to hear the 'real' reason the LGBA suggest temporarily shutting down venues where the disease is being transmitted.

have I missed it?

Lovelyricepudding · 31/05/2022 14:22

Wait4me · 31/05/2022 14:17

That LGB Alliance has no connection with Mumsnet except for some posters are supporters, and occasionally some posters might post things about them here

There's literally been sixteen threads with over 600 pages about LGB Alliance founder Allison Bailey dominating this section for the last 5 weeks.

Have you read them? I recommend you do. But you do know they were more about Stonewall don't you? 16 threads about Stonewall...

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 31/05/2022 14:24

There's literally been sixteen threads with over 600 pages about LGB Alliance founder Allison Bailey dominating this section for the last 5 weeks

its one thread

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 14:24

There's literally been sixteen threads with over 600 pages about LGB Alliance founder Allison Bailey dominating this section for the last 5 weeks.

Let's analyse that shall we Wait4me.

That have been 16 threads about Allison Bailey and her case and I am sure there are probably more too. About ALLISON BAILEY and loosely about LGB Alliance because she was a founder.

But Allison may have brought that case even if she had NOT been part of the LGB Alliance.

It is also a case of the extreme approach taken by supporters of Stonewall, and some people who work in Stonewall and their totalitarianism.

So, you could also say we have had 16 threads with over 600 pages about Stonewall! And Garden Court Chambers!

What a very weak point.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 31/05/2022 14:26

helleofabore

you could be me I suppose

youd be going some to not use punctuation and grammar but still…l

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 14:26

Datun · 31/05/2022 14:21

I'm still waiting to hear the 'real' reason the LGBA suggest temporarily shutting down venues where the disease is being transmitted.

have I missed it?

Nooooo Datun.

Nothing. Just more sparple. Squirrels scattering everywhere.

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 14:27

No Rufus... it is a perfect foil!!!

I overuse punctuation, so no one will suspect.

MangyInseam · 31/05/2022 14:30

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 31/05/2022 13:34

This whole thread is about twitter deleting potentially important information for gay men

now you can agree with all the sex clubs being shut down or think its wrong and/or an overreaction

but it boils down to some of you people NOT wanted others to have information and not wanting a debate on the best way forward

…should have been left up and debated like grown ups in my opinion

Yeah. It's a bit weird.

I'm not sure if I think it's likely to be an effective idea, so I neither support nor don't support it.

There are all kinds of questions, would it work, would it be justified. People might like to avoid them by choice.

And then the whole idea that stigmatizing sex clubs is inherently homophobic is kind of a problem too - sure there are plenty of gay men who are into that. But there are also lots who aren't and even think they are aful.

Sometimes I feel like I am living in that old Onion article about the Pride parade.

titchy · 31/05/2022 14:32

Wait4me · 31/05/2022 14:17

That LGB Alliance has no connection with Mumsnet except for some posters are supporters, and occasionally some posters might post things about them here

There's literally been sixteen threads with over 600 pages about LGB Alliance founder Allison Bailey dominating this section for the last 5 weeks.

Those threads were to talk about her employment tribunal hearing, not her founding of LGBA! Maybe you didn't read them...

Helleofabore · 31/05/2022 14:33

Have you read them? I recommend you do. But you do know they were more about Stonewall don't you? 16 threads about Stonewall...

I, too, recommend anyone new to this discussion to read some of these threads. It is rather eye opening to see. Particularly where one QC, compared lesbians not wanting to have sexual partners with penises (or who had ever had a penis) as apartheid.

Thanks for bringing that up though wait4me. Excellently done,

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 31/05/2022 14:35

I'm not sure if I think it's likely to be an effective idea, so I neither support nor don't support it

i agree, I’m not sure it would work and seems a bit strict to me straight out of the gate but it’s certainly something worth discussing rather than just shutting it down completely

BootsAndRoots · 31/05/2022 14:39

Wow, just seen some of the reaction to LGBA's Tweets. Mainly from journalists (OJ, Ben Cohen etc) who demanded strict lockdown to stop the spread of coronavirus, do not want gay venues locked down to prevent the spread of this virus.

Wor · 31/05/2022 14:39

Odd. The Atlantic (wonderful newspaper) wrote an article saying basically the same thing. It seems it’s not the content of the message, but who says it, that gets it censored.

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/monkeypox-outbreak-spread-gay-bisexual-men/643122/

Anactor · 31/05/2022 14:39

“Well this is nonsense. "I don’t support the state interfering with religious sacraments. All Civil marriages should be styled civil unions."

A number of religions (both in 2013 and 2019) want to marry gay people - e.g. Quakers and liberal Jews.

She's either ignorant…”

That statement by Hearach15 is so breathtakingingly ignorant that it’s almost hilarious. Bonus points for assuming Jackie Doyle Price is the ignorant one, instead of realising that maybe, just maybe, they themselves might not know what they’re talking about.

I hate to state the obvious but one of the reasons different religions call themselves different names is that they believe different things. It does not follow, because Jackie Doyle Price believes that allowing the state to interfere in the Sacraments is a Very Bad Thing, that someone from a different religion will agree.

Equally, if you tell an Anglican that the Quakers believe X, then the likely response is ‘Very interesting, but what’s that got to do with me?’ The very reason that Quakers got called Quakers is that they disagreed with the Anglicans and split.

I can guess which denomination might hate state interference with the Sacraments. They’re a very large minority, and an MP arguing for their point of view when voting on legislation is perfectly valid. Or do we want a state that doesn’t take minority opinion into account?