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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scouts - Facebook post

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Blackandwhitehorse · 18/05/2022 18:58

They are redefining lesbians - all definitions seem to be from Stonewall. So fucked up.

Scouts - Facebook post
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ResisterRex · 18/05/2022 19:09

That's 100% Stonewall. You can tell by the Q word definition. No I don't agree it's been "reclaimed" and yes I do think some people regard it as offensive. I'd be mortified to throw that word around at work for example.

"Sex assigned at birth" is nonsense. Hardly like midwives (midbirthingassistantpersons?) are having a punt, is it?

Circumferences · 18/05/2022 19:26

Ugh. They're totally captured by Stonewall.
They are not paying attention at the back!

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 18/05/2022 19:29

Queer was reclaimed in the 80s?? I was at school in the 80s and 90s and it was definitely still used as a slur.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 18/05/2022 19:33

I was rebuked a while ago for defending the Scouts. I can see why!

What on Earth are they thinking?

Blackandwhitehorse · 18/05/2022 19:34

And this for lesbian

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Toseland · 18/05/2022 19:42

Great to see a lot of pushback - some spot on and well educated responses, lots of 'discredited' referring to Stonewall and a good number of people saying they don't care if they are called transphobic and pointing out safeguarding concerns.

FlibbertyGiblets · 18/05/2022 19:53

Oh dear, this is very poor. Stonewall has a lot to answer for.

Blackandwhitehorse · 18/05/2022 20:02

Yep @Toseland I have noticed more educated comments like these across the board to ridiculous social media posts, the recent benefit one was the same. A positive sign.

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ZandathePanda · 18/05/2022 20:09

Any attempt to convert lesbians to being attracted to transwomen is conversion therapy and illegal under new laws. Perhaps they should be more careful of their definition of lesbian.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/05/2022 20:14

Have you a link to this OP?

Blackandwhitehorse · 18/05/2022 20:28

Second post down on their page Link

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/05/2022 20:33

Thank you.

MrsJamin · 18/05/2022 20:36

This is so sad. My sons are in scouts and there are trans people in their groups which up until now have been treated like the sex that they are when it came to sleeping arrangements. Now I worry what that actually means for their groups. Teenage pregnancies will result in this craziness. Maddening.

budgiegirl · 19/05/2022 15:29

This is so sad. My sons are in scouts and there are trans people in their groups which up until now have been treated like the sex that they are when it came to sleeping arrangements. Now I worry what that actually means for their groups. Teenage pregnancies will result in this craziness. Maddening

In Scouts, there has always been the option for mixed sex sleeping arrangements - but this is always in consultation with parents, and will continue to be the case.

budgiegirl · 19/05/2022 15:31

Sorry, should have added to the above, sleeping arrangements will always be in consultation with parents, and the young people themselves.

mudgetastic · 19/05/2022 17:17

Can I ask what the definition of gay man is?

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