Matt Walsh 'What is a Women?' trailer released

[MalagaNights]

Matt Walsh, the right wing Catholic who is against abortion and yoga (I'm just getting in all the reasons to not 'align' with him in advance, if that's your thing) has released the trailer for his documentary.

It looks hilarious and amazing;

twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1525477731181502464?t=zwaCB9yE6f6R48Q46arIeA&s=19

This concept that if you agree with someone about something you are now “aligned” with him is very tiresome

Absolutely this. One of the most pernicious and frankly thick ideas around at the moment is this.

Those people have already been cancelled.

I don't like tribalism, I see it as another version of gender boxes. Not watching Matt's movie in this instance would have nothing to do my view of him. I'd just find it depressing. I'm glad, on this, we're on the same page but, like Torys, he's no unqualified friend to many women.

Don't like the woo in yoga either.

I love the woo in yoga.

I therefore cannot align with Matt Walsh.

I imagine I don't agree with him on a great many things, that's fine. I'm interested in his questions, the answer to those questions and the borders of where gender faith and uncomfortable truth lies for different institutions and different individuals.

I don't have to sign up to a brand to watch this, do I. Or a religion? This atheist is only on board for religious bits that involve cake.

Do you wanna talk about how Hitler had some good ideas too next?

When you nod along to people known for being bigots, and specifically agree with them because

of shared bigotry towards a specific group, people are bound to take notice of that.

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of shared bigotry towards a specific group, people are bound to take notice of that

Who are these people of whom you speak and why should I give two shiny shits that they are taking notice of me agreeing with Matt Walsh on something?

Matt Walsh and I agree that a woman is an adult human female.

Matt Walsh and I agree that children should not be sterilised and rendered asexual for being gender diverse.

Matt Walsh and I agree that males should not be in women’s sport.

Are you saying this is “shared bigotry”? Are you saying I should care that people notice this agreement?

You either the type of person who thinks that people can take into account different perspectives and motives of different speakers and still seek value in the conversation or you are the type of person who thinks that people are so passive and spongy that they cannot listen to another perspective without consuming the speaker.

It's an interesting debate. I think that in both this trailer and the other clip that's done the rounds, Walsh comes across as thoughtful and articulate, and it's quite a shock to discover he has such reactionary views on other topics.

It's an illustration of the weirdness of this particular debate, and it's proving confusing for a lot of us. Traditionally, there are a set of subjects where the stand you take marks you out as progressive or reactionary: abortion, gay marriage, taxation, capital punishment, minimum wage, maternity leave and so on. Most of the time if you know a person's view on one of those issues you can pretty accurately guess their views on the others.

The trans issue is different. Why? It's because the so-called progressive left have collectively adopted a position that is literally insane. That's all you can say about it. The idea that humans can change sex, or that there are more than two sexes, or that sex is a spectrum, or that a violent male criminal who puts on a dress and calls himself Stephanie should serve his sentence in a women's prison is insane. Unlike topics such as abortion or gay marriage, there is absolutely no possibility of having a reasonable debate about it because the people who believe in this stuff are far outside the outer borders of rationality.

So there are really two groups of people opposing gender ideology. One is people on the right who aren't experiencing any peer group pressure to believe in this, because it's not part of the package of things right-wingers believe in. The other is people on the left who are still capable of independent thought - and have the courage to say so. It's much harder if you're on the left to speak out about this stuff, which is why much of the opposition, particularly in the US, is being led by the right. It's an easy win for them. All they have to do is not be insane.

And that's what makes it really important that those of us who do have progressive views continue to speak out about this issue, because we don't want this to become a right-left issue. Because a lot of ordinary people who are not invested in this debate are simply going to vote for the guys who aren't insane.

Well said @FourTeaFallOut

I suppose that the second type of person you describe would also argue for book burning/banning on the same basis. Probably the type of person who wouldn’t want wives or servants reading Lady Chatterley’s Lover… or the Bible in the vernacular.

Sure, if Matt Walsh was a violent criminal, a terrorist or responsible for genocide I would have reservations about watching/reading his work.

However having views I strongly disagree with does not put him into any of the above categories. I interact with any number of people who hold opinions in opposition to mine every day, life is the richer because of it.

I love yoga, including the woo.

I have a lot of strong opinions, if I tried to live by only interacting with people who share all of my values I’d be a hermit.

Watching FWR defending right wing personalities/media/politicians (however toxic/anti-feminist they are) week after week is a delightful treat.

@NotBadConsidering
> Matt Walsh and I agree that children should not be sterilised and rendered asexual for being gender diverse.

Yeah no, that's not a thing, nor is that what being asexual means.

If anything, transgender identity is being gender diverse, and the "gender critical" as well as conservative movement is hostile to gender diversity of that sort.

Yeah. If you can't process what has actually been posted I suppose it would be!

Hi.
Right wing women are also women.
Right wing men and women are entitled to talk about this.
Hope that helps.

The cognitive dissonance displayed just makes it that much sweeter 👩‍🍳👌

Ah well! Happy to have amused you!

This is what I meant about not being able to reason with people. They think that believing there are only two sexes and that it's not possible for humans to change sex is a right-wing position. You might as well argue that believing the earth goes round the sun is a right-wing position. It's an utterly meaningless insult. What are we supposed to do? Clutch our pearls in horror and say, "The horror of being accused of being right-wing is so terrible that I'm going to start believing that men are women"?

@RoyalCorgi very well put.
@MalagaNights I don't dislike other people liking yoga woo, and I wouldn't dislike someone for liking yoga woo....or genderwoo.

As I posted above, you seem to think I should care about you wilfully misunderstanding and claiming it means something nefarious. Why should I care about what you find delightful? Particularly for your first post on Mumsnet?

If children aren’t being sterilised and rendered sexually dysfunctional because they’re gender diverse, why is it happening then? What IS the reason for children to be given drugs which arrest their sexual development?

Both Matt Walsh and I agree these drugs, leading to lifelong medicalisation, should not be given to children.

Good luck explaining how that is is a “right wing” political opinion akin to a view on corporate tax rates, as opposed to, you know, an opinion based on the premise of first do no harm.

But I’ll say in advance, to emphasise my point from above, I don’t care if you think it IS a “right wing” political opinion to not want to medicalise children, and I don’t care if you think agreeing with Matt Walsh on this makes me some form of right wing apologist. Because I know that it’s just a manufactured stick to try and beat people’s opinions with, and I know where I stand politically. I also know that if you’re trying to persuade people that medicalising children is the good, “left wing” opinion to have, I want no part of that.

@RoyalCorgi we were discussing this last night. As with flat earthers, any vaxxers, no such things as birders, it's the 5Gers etc, there us nothing you can say to those firmly wedded to an ideology. Everything is a lie, every other position deluded, wicked, false.

In real life is much easier to just smile and move on. On here, sometimes, it's appropriate to add explanations for readers who are still thinking about an issue.

This thread has enough considered responses for any number of Hitler references and supposedly belittling responses to be see for what they are.

Ludicrous...

@Droptear self portrait?

Apologies for the tangent but I feel it is worth noting that in the UK being religious does not necessarily align people with right leaning political opinions, with the exception of being practising CofE.

Matt Walsh is Catholic. Catholics in the UK have traditionally supported the Labour Party. Another major difference between the UK and the US.

religionmediacentre.org.uk/factsheets/how-faith-communities-vote-in-uk-elections/