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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'GC is a slur"

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SaraNera · 12/05/2022 23:01

GC is a slur, we need to abandon it and call ourselves something that doesn't come off as critical and negative. I was thinking something like sex based rights SBR or pro womens rights PWR (PrO WomEs Rights = power = PoWeR).
Only issue is Maya getting GC specifically protected, so can it even be changed as GC has become tainted and not seen as progressive.
Something nice catchy and fresh.

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nocoolnamesleft · 12/05/2022 23:05

I'm a biological realist.

Featuredcreature · 12/05/2022 23:06

GC is fine, let's not submit to the whole reality management site.

dropthevipers · 12/05/2022 23:07

Bollocks. GC is a badge of honour worn by those who respect old fashioned stuff like truth, reality, biology and science. The Koolaid mentalists wont give a flying fuck how we choose to describe ourselves, so why should we give a fuck about what they think?

FemaleAndLearning · 12/05/2022 23:09

I don't think it really matters what we call ourselves, it will become the next slur. I am critical of gender, gender stereotypes are bad for women and men and girls and boys. I'm also critical of gender identity ideology. Most of the time I just say I'm passionate about women and girl's rights.

SaraNera · 12/05/2022 23:20

Taking to DD about it and she just blurted out "ewwww you're transphobic" rolls eyes at me, tried explaining GC, she basically says it's the same thing and DH says nothing throughout it, kind of just left it there. Feeling torn apart about it all.

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monsterpup · 12/05/2022 23:22

You can't changes the terms because you don't like people's perceptions of it. Own it, create a better image for the term or get thicker skin

donquixotedelamancha · 12/05/2022 23:26

Gender Critical Feminist is not a slur. It's an accurate description of an intelectual position- that sex stereotypes are harmful and not based in reality.

arethereanyleftatall · 12/05/2022 23:28

I have no problems being called gender critical. I am. I do think gender identity is nonsense, I do think it's damaging to kids to tell them they're in the wrong body if they don't conform to gender stereotypes.

Back to you. How old is your dd? I'm sorry that your dh was a knob here.

PickAChew · 12/05/2022 23:30

GC is simple and straightforward and not a wanky acronym.

SaraNera · 12/05/2022 23:31

How do i create a better image? Explaining women and men need single sex spaces while in a house with a male sitting next to me giving me the side eye and a teen sulking "leave them alone" like it goes in one ear and out the other.

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SaraNera · 12/05/2022 23:35

15, feels like half the school is non binary. DH is non confrontational and remains silent unless it's a topic of interest to him.

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dropthevipers · 12/05/2022 23:35

SaraNera · 12/05/2022 23:31

How do i create a better image? Explaining women and men need single sex spaces while in a house with a male sitting next to me giving me the side eye and a teen sulking "leave them alone" like it goes in one ear and out the other.

Ask her to explain how the likes of Karen White get a free pass according to her ideas?

MangyInseam · 12/05/2022 23:35

There really isn't much point getting on the never ending treadmill of introducing new names for "x" because some people have negative views about the old one.

monsterpup · 12/05/2022 23:38

SaraNera · 12/05/2022 23:31

How do i create a better image? Explaining women and men need single sex spaces while in a house with a male sitting next to me giving me the side eye and a teen sulking "leave them alone" like it goes in one ear and out the other.

This suggests your dd disagrees with your ideology rather than it just being her perception of GC based off the name, which is not a slur

SaraNera · 12/05/2022 23:43

monsterpup · 12/05/2022 23:38

This suggests your dd disagrees with your ideology rather than it just being her perception of GC based off the name, which is not a slur

Same thing.

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tabbycatstripy · 12/05/2022 23:43

“Rational people” would work for me. But GC is alright, I guess.

monsterpup · 12/05/2022 23:43

How is it the same thing? It seems very different to me

SaraNera · 12/05/2022 23:48

dropthevipers · 12/05/2022 23:35

Ask her to explain how the likes of Karen White get a free pass according to her ideas?

That's a road i don't want to go down, getting a hostile reaction from just touching on the subject hurt my feelings. We won't see eye to eye on this and I'm afraid of being labelled negatively, she has non binary classmates, so it feels like a personal attack on her from her experience, Karen doesn't reflect her bubble world view of what trans ideology is.

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SaraNera · 12/05/2022 23:49

monsterpup · 12/05/2022 23:43

How is it the same thing? It seems very different to me

GC is the ideology.

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monsterpup · 12/05/2022 23:54

My point is your daughter disagrees with your ideology, not because of the name but because of the contents. If you changed the name your daughter would still disagree with your ideology and as such changing the name wouldn't achieve anything. I get that you're upset you and your child don't see eye to eye on this but changing the name to something else won't have any bearing on that.

Official terms change over time when they are used as slurs e.g. the R word. GC is not a slur, transphobe is not a slur, they're terms used to describe ideologies

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 13/05/2022 00:10

Let's not get distracted by chasing around trying to find a mutually agreeable term. Your dd isn't doing that.
It's like the word woman. It is what it is. If that's a problem for the people that don't do reality, we can't fix that for them.

IcakethereforeIam · 13/05/2022 00:15

I'm sorry, it must be hard for you. My two don't agree with me either, they both have trans or nb friends. It must be worse for the parents of those kids. Their dad sounds like your dh. But my kids know where I stand and I think that's important.
It's not the label though.

dropthevipers · 13/05/2022 00:24

SaraNera · 12/05/2022 23:48

That's a road i don't want to go down, getting a hostile reaction from just touching on the subject hurt my feelings. We won't see eye to eye on this and I'm afraid of being labelled negatively, she has non binary classmates, so it feels like a personal attack on her from her experience, Karen doesn't reflect her bubble world view of what trans ideology is.

You already are being labelled negatively by not buying into the TWAW mantra. She needs to explain how male rapists in female prisons is OK. Good luck with that.

riceandpeaze · 13/05/2022 00:49

New name needed, GC is sullied.

'GC is a slur"
SaraNera · 13/05/2022 02:20

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