'GC is a slur"

[SaraNera]

GC is a slur, we need to abandon it and call ourselves something that doesn't come off as critical and negative. I was thinking something like sex based rights SBR or pro womens rights PWR (PrO WomEs Rights = power = PoWeR).
Only issue is Maya getting GC specifically protected, so can it even be changed as GC has become tainted and not seen as progressive.
Something nice catchy and fresh.

Dodging the question.

Take your glitterspecs off, read my longer post. I've answered your question. Night night.. That's the only repetition I'm doing.

GC works for me. And if it is a slur any replacement will quickly become one, too. I don't see the point in changing names now and losing the recognition/understanding of GC just as it is finally getting out to the wider world.

Though I do like the suggestion of "biological realist" as suggested by nocoolnamesleft above.

It's funny how you use "blokes in frocks" as a pejorative, but you totally have no issue with feminine "males", you totally don't weaponize the stigma towards gender non-conformity against trans people, no siree. 🙄

Whatever.

@SeldomHere Being gender critical and believing in biological reality is not the same as: "But you don't want trans people to exist. Expecting a trans woman to live as a "man" is expecting her to not be trans. Wanting everyone to not be trans is wanting trans people to not exist."

Transwomen are welcome to dress and behave as they want, providing that they respect women's legally protected sex-based rights, such as the right to single-sex services and facilities and to safety and fairness in sport, etc. Because funnily enough, women have a right to exist, too!

Are trans women expected to live as "men"?

Also, Posie Parker would disagree.

What does "live as a man" even mean? People should dress however they want, train for whatever job they want and live how they want (within the law).

Sex isn't relevant in most of society - the pants you wear, the job you do, the food you eat, the people you socialise with. Be as gender-non-conforming as you like in those spaces. But some spaces are sex-segregated for very good reasons - and trans people should be using the spaces that match their sex, not their gender.

What about … BoB .. belief of Gender

oops!!

BoB … Belief of Biology

Gender is simply the stereotypes imposed on us, the restrictive box that a patriarchal society tries to force us into.
So I like gender critical. It does what it says on the tin.

Predictably, this thread is being used for screenshots on Twitter as an example of 'call a Nazi by another name' nonsense.

There seems to also be a push by MRA's and incels, because of discussion during the Bailey case, to insist against all evidence that terf is not a slur. Despite it obviously being one - obvious example being the horrific threats detailed on www.terfisaslur.com

I've used GC in the past but now just use feminist. As another poster wisely said on another thread - if you centre males in your feminism, then you are not a feminist. If you centre males to the detriment of females, then you are an anti feminist.

Maybe, just maybe, its what GC stands for which is the issue and not the label... Just throwing it out there

What worked for me is that I stopped engaging. I never ever commented on the non binary status or theJkRowling is cancelled or any of it. I carried on thinking my thoughts, reading what I liked and politely rebuffing any attempts at dialogue. This worked very well, and now I might venture a specific question - Puberty blockers oh yes, but will they miss orgasms?, or mild disagreement- cancelled , what did she do?, oh dear, well I still like her. But I won’t engage with the rest of it and I won’t have people accusing me of hate crime in my own home. I absolutely will not be called a terf or transphobic. I won’t be cis anything, and I will did do everything possible to encourage healthy debate on other subjects. I think my girl has quietly changed her position, she keeps wanting to talk about feminism. 3 years ago she was full on trans.

'What it stands for' = against women not being raped in prisons by convicted male sex offenders?

'Stands for' = standing behind women who have been raped being able to request that they are examined by a female examiner?

'Stands for' = being against lesbians being coerced into sex they don't want?

Etc etc.

Honestly, I'm OK with that.

If you are fighting to make sure that vulnerable women are imprisoned with male sex offenders, if you are fighting to force women to be examined by a male against their wishes and if you are fighting to erode women's sexual bodily autonomy, then you really, really aren't on the side of good, as you appear to think you are. * *

Typo in first paragraph - should obviously read ' against women being raped in prisons by convicted male sex offenders'.

None of these things require calling trans women "men", and yet you still insist on that point.

The term was actually coined by self-described 'trans-exclusionary radical feminists', and it followed the same trajectory that 'GC' is following now – declared a "slur" because people began using it perojatively and dismissively on account of their distaste for transphobia.

BBB = basic biology believer. Some good suggestions, biological sex believer.

Anything that people who don't believe in gender ideology say gets called a dog whistle or used as an insult by TRAs.
"Woman = adult human female"
"Biological sex"
"Gender critical"
"Legal fiction"
"Human sex is dimorphic"
"Sex is immutable "
TRAs have moaned about all of these truths.
Orwellian Newspeak in action

Please take your negativity elsewhere, if you have nothing positive to add then don't say anything.

Me and hubby get on fine, it's just this one subject that is driving a wedge between us. There was some drama after i took another posters advice, it didn't turn out great, but that's another story for another day.

declared a "slur" because people began using it perojatively and dismissively on account of their distaste for transphobia

Interesting to see the threats of violent death and sexual assault which are often used alongside the slur terf described as using it 'pejoratively and dismissively' rather than say, violently and aggressively. The term is laden with violence, given its use and is often accompanied by violent images, captions and gun/knife threats.

There are thousands of images on www.terfisaslur.com.

Bit overwhelmed so i may blabber on, DD friend is nb, used to come over before lockdown, DD and friend would be over after school, i would use normal language "would you girls like to get something to eat or drink" DD says i can't say that, if i asked how she is or will she come over next week, that I'm using the wrong words, that her friend is "enbi" (her spelling). Had a few slip ups like that, the friend literally remains the same so easy mistake to make. The enbi friend doesn't come over anymore, lockdown was a good excuse to stop coming over entirely.

So i said i was non binary gnc, now I'm parent or (hubbys name) wife/partner, (my mother's name) child, no more shouting MAAAAM or mum which i miss, DH is having a field day over this, they are both taking the piss and im not actually non binary so its really getting to me. DD and DH both teaming up against me. I've stopped doing everything now, they had pizza because he can't cook, i had some nice rich tea on the sofa and left crumbs everywhere, it's where DH has been sleeping since this unfolded. Trying to sort this mess out and return to normal. Anyways i don't recommend anyone else try this stunt, it may backfire horribly.