Page 2 | Steve Reed (Shadow Justice Secretary) knows what we are

TheBiologyStupid · 27/04/2022 22:48

MrsOvertonsWindow: "So - if asked you can agree that yes a woman has a vagina and a man has a penis. Now, where that man is allowed to wave that penis around is slightly more complicated...... "

Yes, baby steps... They're definitely not there yet.

Scorchedterf · 27/04/2022 23:01

I’d like to see a few more of them say that, then I’d like them to sever ties with Stonewall and also start having policies which centre women, and then have the courage to kick all the science denying TWAWs out. The same they tried to do to Rosie Duffield.
in fact I’d like a public apology to Rosie and all the other women they’ve alienated, and after that once they’ve got some written down sex based policies I might possibly vote for them again

Peregrina · 28/04/2022 07:43

It was a bit aggressive and gaslighty. Perhaps aimed more at his Party HQ than the general public?

Agree with scorchedterf's post.

Noisyprat · 28/04/2022 08:12

Often with politicians is more about what isn't said. I don't doubt that everyone in the Labour Party knows a woman is an ahf however the e next question needs to be can a man become a woman by transitioning. Get them to confirm that under no circumstances can someone change sex. Get them to confirm that biological males should not be in woman's spirt, prisons etc.

Honestly this slight change of tack is to get us all to think they're 'getting it'. I don't believe it. Btw I'm not 100% convinced on the tories with this either because we're not seeing enough positive action.

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Scorchedterf · 28/04/2022 09:09

I’d also like to see David Lammy put on a dinosaur suit and state that he will protect women’s rights. OK that was the dream I had last night.

ResisterRex · 28/04/2022 09:15

Someone should do a montage of all the "OMG of course not!!" responses. Perhaps ending with a Butterworth gasp

FannyCann · 28/04/2022 14:46

What @Noisyprat said.

DomesticatedZombie · 28/04/2022 15:31

ResisterRex · 27/04/2022 19:23

They're still on the "goodness me what a silly question!!" instruction then.

Fuck that noise.

DomesticatedZombie · 28/04/2022 15:33

Scorchedterf · 27/04/2022 23:01

I’d like to see a few more of them say that, then I’d like them to sever ties with Stonewall and also start having policies which centre women, and then have the courage to kick all the science denying TWAWs out. The same they tried to do to Rosie Duffield.
in fact I’d like a public apology to Rosie and all the other women they’ve alienated, and after that once they’ve got some written down sex based policies I might possibly vote for them again

yep. If they think women are going to fall for that gaslighty bullshit they are even stupider than I thought they were.

'oh! This has never even been an issue! '

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.".

JellySaurus · 28/04/2022 16:32

If that's not clear enough for you then I'm afraid it's your issue and not my issue.

I rather like this. It is true. Unfortunately BeeeeKiiiiiind has made the consequences of their issue our issue.

Sonaive10 · 28/04/2022 20:09

tabbycatstripy · 27/04/2022 18:14

On GB News this morning, Steve Reed (Croydon North) was asked if he knows:

"Oh my goodness me, of course I know what a woman is. Why are you even asking that? A man has a penis and a woman has a vagina. If that's not clear enough for you then I'm afraid it's your issue and not my issue.”

Clear enough!

It's good to see but if he nevertheless includes people who self-identify as women in that definition, single sex spaces and facilities can not be respected.
At least most senior Tories are now clearly stating that TW should not be in Women's sport...that is what I now want to hear from Labour/LibDem etc. The Tories also need to do some 'rolling back' of the Stonewall overreach since they are actually in power.