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PaddleBoardingMomma · 2022-04-27T06:54:54+00:00

So this is the latest campaign from cosmetics company Benefit... I have a lot of questions. Firstly, why on earth a cosmetics company are not only jumping on the current trend of "let's somehow get menstruation into our ethos even though it's not related to our company, just so the women think we totally get them" but why they are jumping on it and taking such a stupid, exclusionary and ridiculous view point. Baffled doesn't begin to cover it. Secondly, how can anyone other than a woman have a period? Answers on a postcard... https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc0EGUWIYzr/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Whatwouldscullydo · 28/04/2022 08:22

Yes it makes one really question just what the hell children have been taught in schools and at home over the last decade. In an age where sex education has never been so open how are people growing up and being so ignorant of human biology

Because women were kept under control by being kept ignorant about their bodies. The more women knew the more they were able to have control over theor bodies and in particular birth control.

Of course this didn't benefit men because now women have nore of a say over theor sexuality and having children. The traditional set up of man working and coming home to kids fed and in bed and and a meal on the table and being kept bare foot amd pregnant are less common. This is all just a new way to ensure the same thing. You cant control pregnancy when no one has any idea that 2 " lesbians " can get pregnant if one has a penis , or which sex has periods etc

Same shit different day

BackAgain777 · 28/04/2022 13:56

"I really don’t care about how people identify. But there’s a lot of ‘sex is biologically make or female’ and that’s not strictly true.

Sex is defined by your chromosomes, genitalia, visible physical characteristics and hormone profile. There is a LOT of scope for those not to all be typically male or female. Hermaphroditism, to varying degrees, is a biological reality and not a freak rarity."

No, sorry.
Sex is determined by what gamete you can produce, or what your meant to produce even if the system is malfunctioning for whatever reason.
There are no people on earth somehow "hovering" between male and female. There is NO third sex, never has been, There is no third gamete. It's sperm (small motile gametes) or egg (large immotile gametes). That's it. That's all there has EVER been, and that is why sex is absolutely binary.
NOBODY on earth has EVER had two sets of fully functioning sexual organs. There is no DSD ever recorded where someone has been able to produce both sets of gametes. They produce either one or the other.
In some DSDs genitalia is ambiguous and karyotyping can determine whether the person is male or female.
There are sexual disorders of the make pathway, and sexual disorders of the female pathway.
Someone who is XXY (to answer a previous poster) is NOT "both male and female". They have Klinefelter Syndrome which is a disorder of the male sexual pathway. They are MALE, there are no women with Klinefelter Syndrome because there is a Y chromosome, it is a male disorder. They may have some more feminine characteristics like breast development, underdeveloped male genitalia, lack of body hair etc, but they are MALE.
Also, DSDs represent 0.018% of the population, and are so rare as to be virtually unseen by a doctor in their professional career. This would counter the argument that it is not a "rarity". It absolutely IS A RARITY.
Also, people with DSDs have REPEATEDLY asked not to drawn into this discussion. They do not "validate" that some people are "trans". It is a completely different topic.
Sex is BINARY.
NO third sex.
No third gamete.

No spectrum.

Peregrina · 28/04/2022 14:50

Someone who is XXY (to answer a previous poster) is NOT "both male and female". They have Klinefelter Syndrome which is a disorder of the male sexual pathway.

Thanks for answering. It was a genuine question because years ago I had seen a television programme which featured someone like this, who had some female attributes like small breasts - but he was regarded as male. So now I know that he was regarded as male, because he was male.

LeftFootForward · 28/04/2022 14:55

BackAgain777 · 28/04/2022 13:56

"I really don’t care about how people identify. But there’s a lot of ‘sex is biologically make or female’ and that’s not strictly true.

Sex is defined by your chromosomes, genitalia, visible physical characteristics and hormone profile. There is a LOT of scope for those not to all be typically male or female. Hermaphroditism, to varying degrees, is a biological reality and not a freak rarity."

No, sorry.
Sex is determined by what gamete you can produce, or what your meant to produce even if the system is malfunctioning for whatever reason.
There are no people on earth somehow "hovering" between male and female. There is NO third sex, never has been, There is no third gamete. It's sperm (small motile gametes) or egg (large immotile gametes). That's it. That's all there has EVER been, and that is why sex is absolutely binary.
NOBODY on earth has EVER had two sets of fully functioning sexual organs. There is no DSD ever recorded where someone has been able to produce both sets of gametes. They produce either one or the other.
In some DSDs genitalia is ambiguous and karyotyping can determine whether the person is male or female.
There are sexual disorders of the make pathway, and sexual disorders of the female pathway.
Someone who is XXY (to answer a previous poster) is NOT "both male and female". They have Klinefelter Syndrome which is a disorder of the male sexual pathway. They are MALE, there are no women with Klinefelter Syndrome because there is a Y chromosome, it is a male disorder. They may have some more feminine characteristics like breast development, underdeveloped male genitalia, lack of body hair etc, but they are MALE.
Also, DSDs represent 0.018% of the population, and are so rare as to be virtually unseen by a doctor in their professional career. This would counter the argument that it is not a "rarity". It absolutely IS A RARITY.
Also, people with DSDs have REPEATEDLY asked not to drawn into this discussion. They do not "validate" that some people are "trans". It is a completely different topic.
Sex is BINARY.
NO third sex.
No third gamete.

No spectrum.

Very nicely put @BackAgain777

BootsAndRoots · 28/04/2022 17:54

Trans men shouldn't be having periods because the testosterone injections should prevent them from happening.

nepeta · 28/04/2022 18:35

BootsAndRoots · 28/04/2022 17:54

Trans men shouldn't be having periods because the testosterone injections should prevent them from happening.

This is what I thought. A long time ago I read that most stop having them after going on testosterone, but not all. I also read that hysterectomy is recommended for all trans men on testosterone within six years from starting it for health reasons.

More recent information may tell us otherwise, but on the whole this suggest that the number of menstruating trans men is quite small and perhaps should not be such a strong focus of period supply companies? Unless they also wish to erase the female sex?

There are, of course, non-binary menstruators who have excluded themselves from the class of women but who also demand the class of women to be re-named when it is used in the biological sense so that they can, once again, be included when it benefits them, but not when it does not benefit them.

nepeta · 28/04/2022 20:37

Just realised that 'actual facts' have been reinterpreted more widely. Pregnancy can happen to individuals with penises, menstruation is a random occurrence happening to people in general and so on.

It's curiously Victorian, because we are not allowed to know what a female person is.

BackAgain777 · 28/04/2022 21:50

However, visiting a maternity ward would guarantee that every single patient in there had something in common.
A prostate cancer ward would show that 100% of the patients in there had something in common.

So in the real world, things carry on as they always have.
Facts remain facts whether you admit to them or not.

opensunflower · 29/04/2022 17:40

I cant believe how many trans people there are.

Hopefully a trend that will pass

opensunflower · 29/04/2022 17:43

So Kenny was surprised to get a period but presumably knew he was born with a womb/genitals/ etc?

Did he think he could think himself male? I f only i could banish the monthly with power of the mind

Parents have totally fucked ip there

IAmAWomanNotACis · 29/04/2022 21:48

BackAgain777 · 28/04/2022 13:56

"I really don’t care about how people identify. But there’s a lot of ‘sex is biologically make or female’ and that’s not strictly true.

Sex is defined by your chromosomes, genitalia, visible physical characteristics and hormone profile. There is a LOT of scope for those not to all be typically male or female. Hermaphroditism, to varying degrees, is a biological reality and not a freak rarity."

No, sorry.
Sex is determined by what gamete you can produce, or what your meant to produce even if the system is malfunctioning for whatever reason.
There are no people on earth somehow "hovering" between male and female. There is NO third sex, never has been, There is no third gamete. It's sperm (small motile gametes) or egg (large immotile gametes). That's it. That's all there has EVER been, and that is why sex is absolutely binary.
NOBODY on earth has EVER had two sets of fully functioning sexual organs. There is no DSD ever recorded where someone has been able to produce both sets of gametes. They produce either one or the other.
In some DSDs genitalia is ambiguous and karyotyping can determine whether the person is male or female.
There are sexual disorders of the make pathway, and sexual disorders of the female pathway.
Someone who is XXY (to answer a previous poster) is NOT "both male and female". They have Klinefelter Syndrome which is a disorder of the male sexual pathway. They are MALE, there are no women with Klinefelter Syndrome because there is a Y chromosome, it is a male disorder. They may have some more feminine characteristics like breast development, underdeveloped male genitalia, lack of body hair etc, but they are MALE.
Also, DSDs represent 0.018% of the population, and are so rare as to be virtually unseen by a doctor in their professional career. This would counter the argument that it is not a "rarity". It absolutely IS A RARITY.
Also, people with DSDs have REPEATEDLY asked not to drawn into this discussion. They do not "validate" that some people are "trans". It is a completely different topic.
Sex is BINARY.
NO third sex.
No third gamete.

No spectrum.

Quoting again because it deserves to be re[peated.

Intersex and hermaphroditism are examples of Disorders of Sexual Development (DSD). That's what the medical term is. Something has gone wrong (is disordered) in the normal development of sex in the very small percentage of people that they affect.

Sex IS binary. People and animals are either male, or female sexed. The tiny percentage of the population for whom this is made more complicated to work out do not provide evidence of a spectrum. Whatever you believe about gender identity, Sex. Is. Binary.

IsabelaMadrigal · 30/04/2022 11:52

So for those of you that will be looking for new products to replace Benefit, I've come across Urban Decay's Damn Girl which claims to do the same as Benefit Roller Girl cult favourite. They also have a two mascara, Better than Sex and Damn Girl, pack for the price of one ATM.

I've scoured the net and can't find any slavishness to gender ideology. They have a 'pretty different' range, which seems to focus more on being different and making make up statements than forcing gender ideology.
I'm hoping so as urban decay have a better animal testing record than benefit so hoping I can ethically support them over benefit.