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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I've been given the solution.

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BunniesGonnaHop · 25/04/2022 20:40

Had a lovely chat with a chap (he was male - I made sure to check with him how he identified ;) I said one could never be sure...) who was door knocking in the run up to local elections. I'd say which party, but tbh it makes little difference these days.

Anyway, we back and forthed (he had an awful lot of "but that never happens", which I was able to provide examples for, thanks to you kind lot), and he gave me the solution to the eternal question "but how are women to know which penis-havers are a threat in female spaces, and which ones are the "safe "female" kind of penis-havers", if women's spaces are opened up to anyone who wants to claim they qualify for access to them on their own say so?".

The answer?

If the safe kind of penis-owning women are allowed in, then it actually makes it SAFER for women, because there are more people in those spaces to then challenge any penis-havers who may have identified themselves into those spaces with nefarious intent.

Honest to goodness, I could not get him to see the total flaw in this logic, or the cyclical problem from the starting point.

But there's the answer. Let men into women's spaces and women will be safer.

Ho hum.

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Redshoeblueshoe · 25/04/2022 20:43

I would have laughed at him, very loudly.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 25/04/2022 20:46

There are times when I despair of the level of life experience of people involved in politics.

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/04/2022 20:53

Men are so helpful. During the hundreds of times I've been harassed, touched without consent, catcalled, assaulted and generally treated like shit on the street and elsewhere by men, THREE other men have helped me, three in more than 3 decades. Since I was 11 if anyone is counting.

I'd let those three men into a women's space (with the other women's consent). Unfortunately they'd refuse, I'm willing to bet. Because they're nice like that.

Shout out to O, J and Random Tourist Bloke for their assistance. I bet one million pounds canvasser bloke hasn't ever helped.

FannyCann · 25/04/2022 20:57

But there's the answer. Let men into women's spaces and women will be safer.

Isn't that the reason Americans give for not banning guns? Let all the good guys have a gun and they can take out the bad guys?

Seems to be working well.

ThisIsJeopardy · 25/04/2022 21:07

That's so similar to American gun nut logic. The more people who have guns, you see, the more likely there is to be a 'good guy with a gun' around to defend you in the very unlikely event that a 'bad guy with a gun' starts shooting. If you start putting restrictions on gun ownership, you just reduce the chances there'll be a GGWAG around when you need him. Much better to just flood the place with guns so you can rest assured in the peaceful knowledge that the good guys always have 'em.

It makes perfect sense. That's why there are so few gun related deaths in the United States. Oh, wait.

ThisIsJeopardy · 25/04/2022 21:08

You beat me to it, Fanny! And a far more pithy response, too.

stimpyyouidiot · 25/04/2022 21:11

Shock well

FemaleAndLearning · 25/04/2022 21:23

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Mandodari · 25/04/2022 21:41

So his solution was don't worry your pretty little head, there will always be a man around to save the day.
Just think, after said hero has saved you from a sexual assault you could swoon all girly like into his rugged manly arms.

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/04/2022 22:08

I'd advise people not to click on dodgy links. Reported.

FemaleAndLearning · 25/04/2022 22:14

Sorry it want meant to be a link to the Google Doc but to the woman's place website. The pages look very similar.
womansplaceuk.org/2022/03/08/wpuk-questions-for-councillors/

FemaleAndLearning · 25/04/2022 22:19

I was suggesting you log your answers on the Woman's Place website who gave a Google form you can complete. Historical record for future generations!

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