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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Teachers must tell parents if their child comes out as transgender, says Nadhim Zahawi

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rogdmum · 21/04/2022 08:02

I know we’re not allowed to post links to archive ph now, but there’s a good article in the Telegraph about Zahawi’s comments yesterday:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/04/20/teachers-must-tell-parents-child-comes-transgender-says-nadhim/

Key point is that guidelines are being drawn up (which was already known, but appeared to focus on toilets, sports etc and not social transition) and that:

”Nadim Zahawi, the Education Secretary, has said that schools have a “duty” to inform parents if their child identifies as transgender as he said his department was drawing up guidelines to help teachers.”

”He said: “Parents have to be front and centre of this. And that is my message to the front line is to say: you have to involve parents in this. You have a duty to safeguard those children and parents are very much part of that”.

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Keepitonthedownlow · 21/04/2022 16:04

Randomnameoriginal · 21/04/2022 10:21

@WhiteFire

Forgot to add:

2). Amongst people who do realise that they're not actually trans/don't actually want a female body, I believe hormonal changes on HRT typically make them realise fairly quickly (before any permanent bodily changes have occurred).

I think male-to-female hormone therapy only has one irreversible effect (breast growth), which I don't think starts until a few months in.

Cross sex hormones before puberty have the effect of causing sterility, lack of sexual function and bone growth issues. That's just the tip of the iceberg. After puberty there are also side effects which many regret.

Also just to add that the Tavistock was shown to not be monitoring detransitioners, much is not know.

Helleofabore · 21/04/2022 16:21

Randomnameoriginal · 21/04/2022 10:21

@WhiteFire

Forgot to add:

2). Amongst people who do realise that they're not actually trans/don't actually want a female body, I believe hormonal changes on HRT typically make them realise fairly quickly (before any permanent bodily changes have occurred).

I think male-to-female hormone therapy only has one irreversible effect (breast growth), which I don't think starts until a few months in.

Have you got any citations for this please? I missed it in the thread.

Because why do you believe this?

How long do you think that females can take testosterone before the changes are 'irreversible.'

How long do you think females can take puberty blockers before irreversible long term outcomes loom in their future? Considering women taking these drugs for reasons to do with female reproductive health are monitored very carefully and can only take them for a very limited time. Plus that some of these irreversible long term outcomes only appear much later. I don't know what you are basing your claims on.

Do you understand what the side effects of females taking testosterone experience are? Do you have a list of side effects that are from short term testosterone and when they are expected to kick in?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/04/2022 21:08

Bumping this so that parents and those working in schools spot the thread.

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